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patters
patters  101786 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jul 2013 - 9:28 PM

1 Photography has always got a couple of main subjects of interests above others, one of which is of naked or semi naked people, majority female. When I browse the galleries I often come across pics of naked ladies in really poorly lit/composed/exposed well, just crap really (subjective I know) pictures. Are the people who take these pictures photographers or just dodgy old geezers getting kicks from getting some young sort around to flash their bits?

2 Landscapes, when I look at some of the landscape pics, the really stunning eye catching ones, I think, yes, thats stunning, but I have never seen a scene like that in real life, is it real, or just a jumble of other images processed together and then to death?

Its a shame I cant show a couple of examples without upsetting anyone, and of course I understand this

Am I the only one?

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MichaelMelb_AU
29 Jul 2013 - 9:31 PM


Quote: 1 Photography has always got a couple of main subjects of interests above others, one of which is of naked or semi naked people, majority female. ...

Should have started way before photography and just goes on - from cave paintings actuallySmile

Last Modified By MichaelMelb_AU at 29 Jul 2013 - 9:31 PM
keithh
keithh e2 Member 1023189 forum postskeithh vcard Wallis and Futuna33 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jul 2013 - 9:32 PM

1. Sometimes.

2. No idea without an example but some are 'helped' along the way but you'll be told that its the final image that counts.

patters
patters  101786 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jul 2013 - 9:36 PM

Yeah, but cant give examples Keith without offending people, I've asked this of you before and you sent me a raw file, but it would need to be one of a pic posted in the gallery to compare etc
Thing is, i'd like to see the pic and say, OK, lets see the raw file

patters
patters  101786 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
29 Jul 2013 - 9:37 PM

and anyways, who gives a crap what I think ! Tongue

Rob Freem
Rob Freem  1291 forum posts France
29 Jul 2013 - 11:49 PM

I agree 100%. I wonder myself why some one would want to take photo's of nothing but nude women and girls day in day out. ? Is taking pictures of nude women a substitute for being successful with women?
Or is it a way of demonstrating domination or power over women?

Also, a beautiful landscape should stand up for itself with perhaps a few minor tweaks and not trying to turn it into something that resembles another planet.

StrayCat
StrayCat e2 Member 1014929 forum postsStrayCat vcard Canada2 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jul 2013 - 3:45 AM

Deep thoughts, by Patters.Smile

DaveU
DaveU e2 Member 81339 forum postsDaveU vcard England121 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jul 2013 - 6:57 AM

Just thank your lucky stars that there aren't too many pics of naked or semi-naked ladies flashing their wobbly bits in badly composed but stunningly over-processed landscapes yet.

Although that could just be the next big trend on EPZ ..........

Last Modified By DaveU at 30 Jul 2013 - 6:58 AM
SteveCharles
30 Jul 2013 - 8:41 AM

What on earth are you insinuating, Patters? That the motives of middle aged men paying to spend a couple of hours with a naked young woman half their age may not be entirely photographic? Surely not...

Gaucho
Gaucho e2 Member 122319 forum postsGaucho vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jul 2013 - 9:16 AM

...or naked ladies macros...Sad

NaturesHaven
NaturesHaven e2 Member 3253 forum postsNaturesHaven vcard England5 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jul 2013 - 10:01 AM

Patters you are assuming that all photographers who take these pictures of naked women are men................let me enlighten you.......I am female, not a pervert, in my earlier career as a photographer I took studio images of naked women and shock horror naked men..............does this make me a dirty old geezer also...........the majority of the images I took were for commercial reasons and I took no sexual pleasure in taking them at all..............it was pure business.......most of the studio time was taken up with the technical side of the shoot...........GrinGrinGrin. I should point out that all my models were over the age of 18 and willing participants....SmileSmile

I still find it sad that this genre of photography is always looked upon as something dirty....or is just a British thing.........SmileSmileSmile

Just look at the work of Damien Lovegrove, Trevor Yerbury and EPZ members John Tisbury, RichSR and many others who produce stunning work.....it is beautiful to look at...........

Are you also saying the great artists and painters of centuries ago were perverts.................GrinGrinGrin

collywobles
30 Jul 2013 - 10:11 AM


Quote: Is taking pictures of nude women a substitute for being successful with women? Or is it a way of demonstrating domination or power over women?

What planet do you live on. Naked ladies have been painted, sculpured and looked at since Genesis, and you think its all about dirty old men ogling females. yOU HAVE A DIRTY MIND......!

lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014170 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
30 Jul 2013 - 10:55 AM

people keep using the word "pervert" like its a bad thing...

Gundog
Gundog  1624 forum posts Scotland
30 Jul 2013 - 11:07 AM


Quote: People keep using the word "pervert" like its a bad thing...

Love it.

MichaelMelb_AU
30 Jul 2013 - 11:09 AM

Mind laundry would be completely unnecessary thing here Smile While not justifying OP author's ethically doubtful suggestions I see their position in slightly different light. Great masters of past and present left us with beautiful images of naked human body, but history shamefully sweeps under the carpet many more vulgar presentations of human nature. Unfortunately, many authors of this sort of pictures enjoy a strong shield of human sexual interest and taboos in standing for their "art". Honestly, can anyone say that they saw the same amount of constructive criticism of naked nature as they see of any other type of photography? As for landscapes - I find myself in disagreement with OP author. Memories in most cases are brighter than realities, and this may reflect in photographer's vision of the subject.

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