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    Graham_Rainham

    We did a shoot on Saturday at which only ONE of the FIVE "models" turned up Sad

    Still that's an improvement on the previous shoot (86% failure) when only 3 of the 21 turned up...

    What is wrong with people these days...

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    arhb
    arhb e2 Member 72328 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom68 Constructive Critique Points
    4 Mar 2012 - 5:40 PM

    Was the communication leading up to the shoot OK?

    Graham_Rainham

    Very good, pre-shoot coms, several e-mails, they all have my Mobile number

    Excellent venue - http://www.nationaltrust.org.uk/eastbury-manor-house/

    To be fair I did get a call from two of them, but nothing; not even a txt saying that Grandma's cat had died Tongue, from the other two Sad

    arhb
    arhb e2 Member 72328 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom68 Constructive Critique Points
    4 Mar 2012 - 6:05 PM

    That looks like a good location Graham - how did you go about getting permission to shoot there, if you don't mind me asking?

    Graham_Rainham

    The Barking Photographic Society meets there every Thursday evening and we have a good working relationship with them, by supporting their open day events. They let us have use of the training room and allow us to work with models in and around the House.

    Feel free to pop along any Thursday evening and look out for future events. Smile

    Cheers

    awphot
    awphot  2 United Kingdom
    6 Mar 2012 - 2:15 PM

    How much were you paying them??

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    Overread  63806 forum posts England18 Constructive Critique Points
    6 Mar 2012 - 4:21 PM


    Quote: How much were you paying them??

    Or how much had they paid you?

    It can make it harder to find models, but having finances and a formal contract before the shoot can make a big difference in how other people respect the meeting. When its a freebie you'll get flakes who just up and vanish, many (esp for "model" work) might also never have actually intended to go or didn't build up the confidence to attend.

    Bring in some finances and suddenly they'll turn up because they've paid out to be shot by you or you've got a cheque with their name on it at the event and they want it

    Graham_Rainham


    Quote: Bring in some finances and suddenly they'll turn up because they've paid out to be shot by you or you've got a cheque with their name on it at the event and they want it

    I've had some (5 of the 21) that were agency booked/refered "models" that didn't turn up...

    Mostly it's TFPs that don't show, but I've even had two paid MUAs not turn up on me Sad

    Years ago I did a lot of recruiting for very well paid jobs and even then people didn't show up.

    It's definatly getting worse, and not just with models. I guess I'm getting older faster than I thought...Tongue

    arhb
    arhb e2 Member 72328 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom68 Constructive Critique Points
    6 Mar 2012 - 6:40 PM


    Quote: When its a freebie you'll get flakes who just up and vanish, many (esp for "model" work) might also never have actually intended to go or didn't build up the confidence to attend.



    Rather a sweeping statement Alex, and not one that I've experienced.

    JackAllTog
    JackAllTog e2 Member 53667 forum postsJackAllTog vcard United Kingdom58 Constructive Critique Points
    6 Mar 2012 - 7:13 PM

    Most of the TF models i've worked with are keen to shoot. There are occasional ones that just drop out last minute. Then there are the ones who keep coming back. This can be the best deal as they are less likely to let you down and you need less time getting to know each other. As most I work with are fairly new I do a lot of pre shoot comms and this helps put them at ease. I think this contributes to reducing no shows.w

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