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    dunczilla
    4 Sep 2008 - 11:23 AM
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    ...and would really appreciate a little guidance on the next step!

    I have a Nikon D40, and use Paintshop Pro XI. And the simple truth is I don't know where to start with shooting RAW files. I understand there is a much greater degree of control and adjustment available (so in a continuing effort to improve my photography skills I need to get to grips with it) but I really don't know what to do once I have my NEF file...

    It needs converting. That much i have gathered. But do I need to shell out another £139 for Nikon Capture DX? PP XI doesn't seem to like NEF files much... and what do I convert it into?

    (A polite P.S.... I posted this on another photography forum a while ago, and the one solitary response I did get was along the lines of "put the grown-up camera down, and go back to your colouring books.."

    Constructive advice - or even a pointer towards it - would be appreciated. Smartarse remarks and condescending attitude will be accepted ONLY if you popped out of the womb a fully-fledged photo-editing guru. We all have to learn it somewhere/somehow...)

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    dunczilla
    4 Sep 2008 - 11:27 AM
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    Oh and another PS - I'm not posting this as a shortcut to looking for the information myself, believe me I have! And "buy Photoshop" isn't really an option either...

    User_Removed
    4 Sep 2008 - 11:31 AM
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    You will need to buy software I'm afraid, however how much you need to spend varies according to what you want to get out of the software.

    If you don't want all the bells and whistles of the Nikon software (it is an image editing tool as well and very sophisticated), then I recommend either Photoshop Elements or as you have Paintshop Pro already, why not just invest in a product called Breezebrowser (link). It's a nifty bit of software, not very expensive (has a free trial so you can see how you get on), does RAW conversion and so much more (batch format conversions, batch renamings, resizing, all sorts of thing)

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    brian1208
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    4 Sep 2008 - 11:36 AM
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    have a look at Irfanview - its a free programme which, I think, will support your Nikon RAW files

    Also look at Capture One and Bibble, which aren't free but cheaper than Nikon Capture.

    Don't look at RAW as a difficult step up from jpeg, more as using your camera's best quality setting. Everything still works the same, but you get more post-capture control. You have the extra step of adjusting white balance, contrast etc., and converting to another format for further editing, if needed. You can convert straight to a jpeg if you want, or to tiff which is a better quality, lossless file than can be reworked without damaging it. RAW files off the camera may not look as good as jpegs, but only because they don't have the camera's colour, contrast and sharpening settings applied.

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    Metalhead
    4 Sep 2008 - 11:56 AM
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    Speaking of Capture One, not sure if the deal is still available, but you could get a licence key when you bought a SanDisk CF card a short while ago. I got the software but never got round to trying it out, and I'm fairly sure I may still have a second unused licence key with another memory card I bought, but I'd have to check when I was back home...

    dunczilla
    4 Sep 2008 - 12:07 PM
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    Well thank you all for your responses, much appreciated. Am looking at Capture One right now and am going to go for the 30 day free trial. Not only does it look good in terms of layout, the tutorials are clear and concise too.

    It's not that I object to forking out for software, just that I am really getting to grips with PP XI now, and don't want to buy another full image editing package. I didn't get into photography to spend my life with my head stuck in my computer!


    Quote: Have a look at Irfanview - its a free programme which, I think, will support your Nikon RAW files

    I use it as a RAW viewer (as i have lost my copy of the Nikon RAW software) and it is very good.

    Anil.

    User_Removed
    4 Sep 2008 - 12:14 PM
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    Quote: I am really getting to grips with PP XI now, and don't want to buy another full image editing package

    I would walk away from Capture One then as it's not just a RAW conversion software but a full image editing package (a good product though).

    Stewy
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    4 Sep 2008 - 12:20 PM
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    According to the product info, PP XI has a RAW converter built in, (although not the best with Nikon NEF files according to one review I saw).

    Have you tried this?

    Martyn

    Stewy
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    4 Sep 2008 - 12:27 PM
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    Edit:

    There is an update avialable from Corel website for RAW files.

    Martyn

    User_Removed
    4 Sep 2008 - 12:31 PM
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    Quote: Edit:

    There is an update avialable from Corel website for RAW files.

    Martyn

    There's your answer Grin

    stuwhitt
    4 Sep 2008 - 12:33 PM
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    Quote: I would walk away from Capture One then as it's not just a RAW conversion software but a full image editing package (a good product though).

    Your not getting your Captures mixed up are you Barry Smile
    Capture One is a very good raw convertor and one I have used extensively plus the support is excellent, though Lightroom may well be worth a try if you want spend less time in front of the computer

    HTH

    Stu Smile

    brian1208
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    4 Sep 2008 - 12:34 PM
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    Picasa 3 may be worth a look as another Freebie here

    MikeRC
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    4 Sep 2008 - 12:43 PM
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    Hi...I bought Elements 6 for £25:
    ...this will convert raw files from my D80 .

    ...still don't know what to do with them but I keep trying :

    .....Mike

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