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It's a lie that CS5 (or earlier) makes it easy to have a consistent colour managed workflow between apps.
Photoshop takes notice of the monitor profile that I specify. sRGB images render correctly on my wide-gamut monitor, but the same images in Dreamweaver don't! And there's no way to get them to.
Ridiculous.
Can I be clear about what you are saying Chris?
You suggest that if you process an image in CS5 and get it looking as you want it on a particular monitor and save it as a Jpeg, Tiff or whatever, then if you import that image into a page you are working on in Dreamweaver then, on the same monitor, the image looks different?
I would find that worrying if I used Dreamweaver (or any other package that produced a similar result).
What I can say is that any image I work on in CS5 and then export as any form of image file, looks the same if I open it in Windows Photo Viewer or in any of the packages I might import it into - such as Word, Frontpage, Photomatix Pro, etc. My problem was matching my monitors to each other and to my printer - which I finally achieved with ColorMunki.
That's exactly what I'm saying.
Photoshop CS5 displays colours correctly on my monitor. Dreamweaver CS5 doesn't. (Neither btw does AfterEffects CS5).
The reason is that Photoshop is properly colour-managed (you have the opportunity to spec your monitor profile). Dreamweaver etc don't have that option.
I can just about accept that a photograph or logo that I work on in Photoshop CS5 then view on the web using a colour managed browser looks the way it should but is displayed incorrectly by Dreamweaver CS5 when editing the webpage.
Trouble is all of the menu colours, page colours, text colours also display incorrectly. In the very program designed for creating and editing the colours.
The premium industry standard web design package from Adobe can't display web pages properly on a monitor with an Adobe RGB like gamut but free Firefox can.
What's worse is that Bridge has an option for Creative Suite Color Settings to sync the entire suite but only Photohsop and maybe InDesign are actually capable of accurate colour.
It seems even stranger now that I remember that Dreamweaver is also an Adobe product!!
Oddly enough, when I set up Premier Pages, my web design company, back in 1996 I opted for Microsoft Frontpage as my main design tool and stuck with it although I knew that Dreamweaver was eventually much more powerful in many respects. I would have thought that if FrontPage - a less sophisticated and now obsolete package - could get colours correct, Adobe, of all people, should be able to do the same.
Don't you have to rely on finding the hexadecimal colour values in Dreamweaver? I thought that was the case so the colours will be correct on any system, whether it is colour managed or not.
For example, the background colour on my website is #222222 and I used that as a basis for designing my buttons etc.
For colours when it comes to websites the colour management really doesn't matter in DW, you've no control of what it really renders like on any other machine on the net. I'd do as most others do, do your design in Photoshop, picking your colours etc. then work from there. I don't know any of our clients that use Dreamweaver to actually create a design (in fact I don't know any of our design clients who use DW full stop), I'd certainly not call DW industry standard.
Quote: you've no control of what it really renders like on any other machine on the net. I'd do as most others do, do your design in Photoshop
LOL, so if I pick the colour in Photoshop then I can control what it looks like on other machines but not if I pick it in Dreamweaver. BTW what program do you consider to be the industry standard for web design Karl?
Let's say I'm creating a cascading stylesheet in Dreamweaver and I decide I want to set the colours of my H1 tags instead of using Dreamweaver's colour picker you're saying I should load up Photoshop???
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Don't you have to rely on finding the hexadecimal colour values in Dreamweaver? I thought that was the case so the colours will be correct on any system, whether it is colour managed or not.
Gary, A design that looks great in Firefox (with CM) looks garish and oversaturated in Dreamweaver, but looks fine in Photoshop (with CM). It's inconsistent.
If I was using an sRGB gamut monitor it wouldn't be a problem. My monitor can pretty much show the Adobe colourspace. Mozilla's Firefox can send colours to that monitor and they are displayed properly Adobe's Dreamweaver can't. But CS team-mate Photoshop can.
This means every time you make a slight change to a colour of say a bar or background of a DIV or anything else on a webpage in Dreamweaver to see what it is supposed to look like you have to preview it in Firefox.
I've thought of an even simpler way to explain the problem.
Imagine that in Photoshop I have a colour of #D62822. In Firefox (with colour management) it will look identical to how it looks in Photoshop.
In Dreamweaver it won't, it will look oversaturated 
Dreamweaver can't talk properly to a wide gamut monitor. Ridiculous when the suite is supposed to give consistent colour across applications.
Karl Here's a video of a guy choosing colours for his website in Dreamweaver to give you an idea of how that works.
Hope I didn't sound cheeky before about you using Photoshop to choose your website colours, to each his own. I prefer to use Dreamweaver and not have to open Photoshop.
What I'm saying is that industry standard is pretty much to do the whole design in Photoshop, then take that design and convert it in to a layout, never going anywhere near the colour picker in Dreamweaver or whatever IDE they are using, the site and colours should be planned out way in advance of getting anywhere near coding stage. I'd say 98% of designers/agencies we work with don't use any sort of WYSIWYG tool for creating HTML layouts, as it's far quicker for them to do them by hand when it comes to doing clean CSS based layouts that work correctly over multiple platforms.
Inconsistency of colour is something you have to accept with the web, v. v. v. v. few people have calibrated monitors, or any sort of profile loaded for their monitor - or even any sort of concept of colour spaces, or calibration etc.
Quote: Inconsistency of colour is something you have to accept with the web, v. v. v. v. few people have calibrated monitors, or any sort of profile loaded for their monitor - or even any sort of concept of colour spaces, or calibration etc.
So you think it's not worth getting the colours right at my end or calibrating my monitor?
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