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not if you were going door to door in doncaster or sheffield this week
the weather drives you mad last year it was too hot and numbers at events were down due to hard ground, ya can never win in real life can you
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Quote: Not if you were going door to door in doncaster or sheffield this week
Yeah, but you live in Hayle - that's a bit far too go just to take a few snaps Paul !!
PS Just think of me getting wet again at the Eden Project tonight !!
So its the Olan Mills route for you then Paul?
Perhaps you could sell them a timeshare at the same time?
actually thats a good idea Peter, theres a cracking timeshare place near us, we could set a studio up there, loads of moneyed people , loads of money
no I would be aiming at the family price range and undercutting Venture by about 1000%
Ah Yes, but Peter hasn't got his camera yet !!
(If you ever want to hire a couple of Bowens, Paul ! )
well got my Dlites 4`s not as posh as bowens but very good for the job , did you see charles Roffs exhibition in that new photographic gallery in Penzance ,went there on the fireworks at mazey eve
Oh Yes !! - Amazing stuff !! Charlie Roff was the reason I took up photography in the first place - I'm still in awe of his work - I sorta know him, he went to my old school in Penzance - he borrowed a lens off me once !! but sadly i've never been on one of his shoots..........I see he also has a big fan in Lee Searle !! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery !!!!
Paul, What about Tolroy Manor just up the road from you, they get a busy summer season
It seems to me you have very little experience and as nearly all young families have compact cameras and theirfore, loads of images of their kids, what can you offer them? Just because you have some lights a decent camera (but not decent lenses for the job) does this make you a portrait photographer? How will you cope with the kids who won't play ball and you have to spend an hour coaxing them into getting just one shot - time is money.... How will you get parents to pose properly, because they "feel silly". Just because they are in their own home doesn't mean they will be relaxed, you have to make them relaxed, which somehow I think you'll struggle to do at the moment as you don't have a lot of confidence and will feel under pressure yourself.
If you're willing to "shadow" a photographer then you must be willing to do some freebies. Get your family & freinds to sit for you and don't charge a penny. If you're not confident then you shouldn't be paid, get your reputation built up first, then perhaps you will be in a position to charge people for your services. It's not always about the product, but about the person providing the product....
You will also need Liabilty insurance and possibly a CRB and of course a degree in diplomacy...
well I have the degree in diplomacy after 4 seasons event togging, got 5 mill public liability, plus a crb check , plus employees liability, plus all the gear, now have I any idea???
think if this bad weather carries on its wedding photography for me for next sping , god help me
Before advising him to charge more has anyone actually looked at his one example image in his gallery asking for advise
Quote: Before advising him to charge more has anyone actually looked at his one example image in his gallery asking for advise
I did say, given his admission of lack of experience, that £50 was expensive. If you have all the gear and experience that a pro should have, then of course, it's fine to charge pro prices. We all have to start somewhere, but given his limited experience etc, there's no way he should be charging some of the figures bandied about here. If I was employing a tog charging me £200, I'd want to see some previous work and it would need to be good. I applaud his efforts to get off his backside and get out there and find work, but with no track record, I'd be surprised if people would pay the figures suggested here.
People are not landscapes, still lifes or buildings... they need coaxing, and making feel at home. You'll be putting them in alien positions and generally making them feel uncomfortable, so it's up to you to take their mind of it and get them to be your puppets.
If you're good at that even with stubborn b'stards, then go for it.
I for one have never charged a penny for a sitting because I never really feel confident enough on the people side, it's hard - a baby shoot I did last week nearly beat me.
If they want some prints I'll make a few quid of course - they've seen Venture's prices so I'll be a pittance of that
But little things like hand and feet positions can make or break a shot - also, do you know how to make a chunky person look thinner? Things like that are intuitive to these old hacks, that's why they get paid decen cash
Me? I just make people look like coal miners!
But bloody good coalminers at that LOL
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