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Advice on setting up visiting portraiture business


ZenTog e2
12 7.9k 1 England
2 Jul 2007 12:36PM
not if you were going door to door in doncaster or sheffield this week

the weather drives you mad last year it was too hot and numbers at events were down due to hard ground, ya can never win in real life can you

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Geoffphoto e2
8 13.5k United Kingdom
2 Jul 2007 12:38PM

Quote:Not if you were going door to door in doncaster or sheffield this week


Yeah, but you live in Hayle - that's a bit far too go just to take a few snaps Paul !!

PS Just think of me getting wet again at the Eden Project tonight !!
2 Jul 2007 12:39PM
So its the Olan Mills route for you then Paul?

Perhaps you could sell them a timeshare at the same time?
ZenTog e2
12 7.9k 1 England
2 Jul 2007 12:40PM
actually thats a good idea Peter, theres a cracking timeshare place near us, we could set a studio up there, loads of moneyed people , loads of money
no I would be aiming at the family price range and undercutting Venture by about 1000%
Geoffphoto e2
8 13.5k United Kingdom
2 Jul 2007 12:43PM
Ah Yes, but Peter hasn't got his camera yet !!

(If you ever want to hire a couple of Bowens, Paul ! )
ZenTog e2
12 7.9k 1 England
2 Jul 2007 12:45PM
well got my Dlites 4`s not as posh as bowens but very good for the job , did you see charles Roffs exhibition in that new photographic gallery in Penzance ,went there on the fireworks at mazey eve
Geoffphoto e2
8 13.5k United Kingdom
2 Jul 2007 12:48PM
Oh Yes !! - Amazing stuff !! Charlie Roff was the reason I took up photography in the first place - I'm still in awe of his work - I sorta know him, he went to my old school in Penzance - he borrowed a lens off me once !! but sadly i've never been on one of his shoots..........I see he also has a big fan in Lee Searle !! Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery !!!! Smile
Paul Morgan e2
13 16.1k 6 England
2 Jul 2007 1:15PM
Paul, What about Tolroy Manor just up the road from you, they get a busy summer season Smile
Hanners e2
8 875 10 Ireland
2 Jul 2007 1:53PM
It seems to me you have very little experience and as nearly all young families have compact cameras and theirfore, loads of images of their kids, what can you offer them? Just because you have some lights a decent camera (but not decent lenses for the job) does this make you a portrait photographer? How will you cope with the kids who won't play ball and you have to spend an hour coaxing them into getting just one shot - time is money.... How will you get parents to pose properly, because they "feel silly". Just because they are in their own home doesn't mean they will be relaxed, you have to make them relaxed, which somehow I think you'll struggle to do at the moment as you don't have a lot of confidence and will feel under pressure yourself.

If you're willing to "shadow" a photographer then you must be willing to do some freebies. Get your family & freinds to sit for you and don't charge a penny. If you're not confident then you shouldn't be paid, get your reputation built up first, then perhaps you will be in a position to charge people for your services. It's not always about the product, but about the person providing the product....

You will also need Liabilty insurance and possibly a CRB and of course a degree in diplomacy...

Good Luck
ZenTog e2
12 7.9k 1 England
2 Jul 2007 4:35PM
well I have the degree in diplomacy after 4 seasons event togging, got 5 mill public liability, plus a crb check , plus employees liability, plus all the gear, now have I any idea???
think if this bad weather carries on its wedding photography for me for next sping , god help me
2 Jul 2007 6:50PM
Before advising him to charge more has anyone actually looked at his one example image in his gallery asking for advise Smile
agoreira 11 6.0k Wales
2 Jul 2007 7:18PM

Quote:Before advising him to charge more has anyone actually looked at his one example image in his gallery asking for advise


I did say, given his admission of lack of experience, that 50 was expensive. If you have all the gear and experience that a pro should have, then of course, it's fine to charge pro prices. We all have to start somewhere, but given his limited experience etc, there's no way he should be charging some of the figures bandied about here. If I was employing a tog charging me 200, I'd want to see some previous work and it would need to be good. I applaud his efforts to get off his backside and get out there and find work, but with no track record, I'd be surprised if people would pay the figures suggested here.
Hanners e2
8 875 10 Ireland
2 Jul 2007 7:24PM
totally agree
ade_mcfade e2
10 15.1k 216 England
2 Jul 2007 7:39PM
People are not landscapes, still lifes or buildings... they need coaxing, and making feel at home. You'll be putting them in alien positions and generally making them feel uncomfortable, so it's up to you to take their mind of it and get them to be your puppets.

If you're good at that even with stubborn b'stards, then go for it.

I for one have never charged a penny for a sitting because I never really feel confident enough on the people side, it's hard - a baby shoot I did last week nearly beat me.

If they want some prints I'll make a few quid of course - they've seen Venture's prices so I'll be a pittance of that Smile

But little things like hand and feet positions can make or break a shot - also, do you know how to make a chunky person look thinner? Things like that are intuitive to these old hacks, that's why they get paid decen cash

Me? I just make people look like coal miners!
Hanners e2
8 875 10 Ireland
2 Jul 2007 8:13PM
But bloody good coalminers at that LOLSmile

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