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Nah its fine read it. They scored the same cumulative points, although one scored better for image quality (the reason you buy a camera). So a decision that it would be easy to tip one way or the other.
So lowest cost, best lens range, best high ISO performance, quickest start up, best ergonomics, best frame rate go Canon.
If you want in-camera IS, like the Sony handling, shoot JPEG and want to use a dynamic range enhancer go Sony.
The thing is the lower res Canon LCD screen was not seen as an issue (it is not in real life either). Still happy Ibought the better for me camera 
But as the review states, if you have lenses for either go for them.
Well, I guess different people can read the same article in different ways - of course. Like I've said before, the point I made about the LCD was mainly to correct an error in the EPZ report - which I notice has still not been changed, and the guy who was going to look into it plainly hasn't had time. I'm still awaiting an apology about the 921k vs 307k nonsense.
BTW, why do you and CB have 4 stars opposite your name? Are they like Michelin stars, or something.
Quote: yes - they taste better
But they're just tiny portions artistically arranged on the plate.
Quote: You'll get your first star in April, Jabber!
I'm not sure the Jabber will last that long. His membership will be revoked for anti-canonist tendencies - or possibly crap photographs.
Quote: His membership will be revoked for anti-canonist tendencies
Tell you what if we ever attend the same meet remind me to bring a roll so you can put that chip in it
A nice butty is what you need to cheer you up
Quote: Nah its fine read it. They scored the same cumulative points, although one scored better for image quality (the reason you buy a camera).
Yes, the A700 gets the AP 5 star "Best in class" award, ahead of the 40D - pretty impressive for Sony's second DSLR. Here are various quotes for anyone interested:
- The higher resolution of the A700 does make a difference to the files it produces when compared to those of the 40D and when viewed at 100% pictures contain slightly more detail.
- The A700 pictures look slightly sharper straight from the camera than equivalent files from the 40D .... it is a relief to see that the sharpness represents actual detail and is not the result of oversharpening.
- The 40D clearly has the edge between ISO1600 and ISO3200
They seem to really like the Dynamic Range Optimiser ("makes a huge difference to the shadows in images") and the in-camera stabilisation ("Sony claims that SSS should allow the camera to be handheld at shutter speeds around 4 stops longer than would normally be possible, and in my experience I found that this is generally true"). The comments about the menu are strange. I think he's a Canon user and he hadn't read the massive Sony user manual - he shouldn't be using the menus, he should use the Fn Navi button.
But overall the review is very positive and strikingly different, in some areas, to the EPZ review.
One thing I noticed was the reviewer said "with the 40D I often found - as I have done on the 10D, 20D and 30D - that setting -1/3 or -1/2EV delivered the most attractive exposures in evaluative metering mode". I would say this is quite a serious problem but the reviewer seems to gloss over it. I reckon accurate metering is pretty important.
Oh, selective quotes mr Webber! Surly the point is the read the hole article to get the balanced view?
I did have a quick look at the Image Quality samples, and I thought the Canon came out very well in that test.
Quote: One thing I noticed was the reviewer said "with the 40D I often found - as I have done on the 10D, 20D and 30D - that setting -1/3 or -1/2EV delivered the most attractive exposures in evaluative metering mode". I would say this is quite a serious problem but the reviewer seems to gloss over it. I reckon accurate metering is pretty important
'Attractive' and 'Accurate' may not be the same thing. The import thing is to take control of the tool, and get the best result.
Quote: Oh, selective quotes mr Webber! Surly the point is the read the hole article to get the balanced view?
I think the quotes are fairly representative. I've just stuck to comments about IQ, because it's an 8 page report. Basically the Sony pictures are more detailed and better dynamic range (the A700 apparently also has better DR than the Nikon D3), while the Canon does ISO3200 a bit better. The Sony gets the "Best in Class" award.
I think, if you have to use exposure compensation in normal situations, then there's something wrong.
Yes I bothered to read the entire and spotted the 40D retaining more detail at ISO1600 and above. Care to explain why the 40D gets the better IQ score?
And the interface is correct, try changing the ISO on the fly and where is the top pannel LCD, they left the space for it? Any comments on the poor WB performance, I mean the canon AWB is not good I think so the Sony must be terrible.
The sharpness and dynamic range stuff was on JPEG, sorry its not a lot of use if you want the best and shoot RAW. All you need is the detail in the RAW so you can control it properly and a RAW file that is not ruined by an over active noise reduction feature you cannot turn off.
As they noted between ISO 100 and 800 there is little in it in processed RAW OP. Above that the 40D was better.
So what do we know, the cameras as subtly different but produce similar results if you shoot RAW up to ISO 800.
Congratulations to Sony for including in-camera IS, congratulations to Canon for LiveView, better user interface and better high ISO.
So pick your features and pick your camera, no big issue.
Haven't seen the AP review so won't comment.
I do hate though when computer magazines and TV programmes like The Gadget Show review DSLRs.
They only seem to review the body with the kit lens. They never seem to take into account the quantity, the quality or the range of other lenses and accessories available to the purchaser.
Computer magazines are the worst offenders, they should stick to reviewing computers.
Jabber enjoy your Sony camera, if you invest a lot in the system I hope for your sake that Sony don't abandon the market in future because the margins aren't high enough. Like Betamax. Or MiniDisc.
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