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Problem is Chris we never actually get the FACTS reported, god forbid they get in the way of a good story. I'm gonna guess that his terminology to the officer may not have been quite as pure aand innocent as is made out and that he was probably arrested for a Section 5 Public Order offence as well as the D&D / Assault/ Obstruction
Quote: his terminology to the officer may not have been quite as pure aand innocent as is made out and that he was probably arrested for a Section 5 Public Order offence as well as the D&D / Assault/ Obstruction
Assault? You must be joking! The officer should have been charged with assault! If I'd been Mr. Carter, I would have insisted on it!
that's actually quite funny, on the one hand you say....
Quote: Problem is Chris we never actually get the FACTS reported, god forbid they get in the way of a good story.
and in the next sentence...
Quote: I'm gonna guess that his terminology to the officer may not have been quite as pure aand innocent as is made out and that he was probably arrested for a Section 5 Public Order offence as well as the D&D / Assault/ Obstruction
Forgive me for wanting to allow the facts to get in the way of a good story, but do you have any evidence to back that up?
As I've said everyone is reacting to the reported information and of course well all know that is a full and factual account of what happened isnt it.....it must be because thats what it says in the paper.
Just as an example we had an incident about 2 years ago that was reported by the local paper in what could only be described as a slighly biased viewpoint......the paper then went out into the street to get 'public reaction' to the story and included comments by 10 members of the public that were asked.........and now the punchline....the shoping area they interview these people in was in the middle of the roughest parts of town and of the 10 people interveiwed 9 had SERIOUS criminal records and were bound to be anti-police. So I wonder why a take any press story with a pinch of salt.....cynical.....yep 
But my question was, do you have any facts to back up your comment that:
Quote: I'm gonna guess that his terminology to the officer may not have been quite as pure aand innocent as is made out and that he was probably arrested for a Section 5 Public Order offence as well as the D&D / Assault/ Obstruction
or are you avoiding letting the facts get n the way of your story?
pot, kettle, black,
The story is also in the Telegraph today as well. Whatever the facts, not exactly great PR for the Avon and Somerset Police - or other police forces really.
The underlying situation seems to be that the police officer broke the rules of the road that everyone - including the police, have to adhere to and didn't like the fact that he'd been caught out by a member of the public. He wasn't on an emergency call by the sounds of it, so he should have followed the rule of the road. The fact that the policeman had to go through a disciplinary seems to indicate that he wasn't acting in a way that was expected of him. I think he's lucky to have held onto his job. Quite frankly, I'd expect to be sacked if I told a member of the public or a customer to "F**k off.".
The member of the public clearly did nothing wrong otherwise he should have been charged when he answered bail. Hope he gets a decent payout for it all. If it makes other police sit up and take notice that they can't just push innocent people around and realise they are not above the law themselves then good for him.
Stolzy, I think the
Quote: I sort of said
brings into question the full events at the time.
As to the officer telling the male to
Quote: F*** Off
if this indeed was the case then the officer should be disciplined, however without fully independant witnesses or CCTV with sound showing the full incident it is very difficult to make any judgement. I have personally been in situations where officers have used similar language but considering what was going on at the time, it could have been deemed as neccesary........at the end of the day some people dont repsond to the words 'go away' no matter how many times or with how much force you can use them.
Quote: The member of the public clearly did nothing wrong otherwise he should have been charged
There are many times and situations when someone is arrested and released without charge, so that assumption is also incorrect.
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