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Are proper cameras doomed?


1 Nov 2013 3:18PM
I own an HTC One V which has a 5mp camera on it and is ok for grab shots etc plus its always in my pocket My Girlfriend has the Sony Xperia L which has a 8mp camera and takes great shots but are nowhere near as good as my donkeys years old Samsung Digimax A7 7mp camera which takes excellent shots in my opinion but eats batteries lol.
Camera phones are fine but I would always go for a dedicated camera every time.

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Carabosse e2
11 39.5k 269 England
3 Nov 2013 11:19AM
The Nokia Lumia 1020 with its 41-megapixel sensor (larger than that in most mobile phones) and optical image stabilisation certainly looks interesting.

The main benefit of such a high resolution is what one might call pseudo-optical zoom, i.e. the ability to zoom losslessly albeit at a lower resolution.

There's a video about it. Set the YouTube resolution to 1080p and full screen. It is surprisingly good.




zoqy71 1 2 United Kingdom
7 Nov 2013 9:34AM
Since the advent of camera phones and digital camera's I've seen a great many more people with DSLR's camera's then I ever did in the days of film. My guess is they discover the pleasure of photography with their phone and then upgrade to a DSLR. Something which would have have happened in the days of film, because of the high costs involved in taking photos.
parallax e2
5 119 United Kingdom
7 Nov 2013 12:01PM
The new Sony A7 and A7R look like a move in the right direction in terms of size and weight combined with exceptional quality.

I for one find lugging my 5DII and say a 24-70L very tiring after a while.

So I'm selling up and switching to the A7R Sony for a lighter, more compact setup.
Carabosse e2
11 39.5k 269 England
7 Nov 2013 12:20PM
Many years ago Nikon had a slogan which was something along the lines of: "The history of the world is captured through Nikon lenses".

Maybe we'll be saying It is captured through the lenses of smartphones, these days! Grin
I don't have an ipad, I don't even have a "smart Phone", but I have a camera...... and I like to understand the mechanics of photography, if "smart phones" and ipads continue to be the "in" things will the fundamental understandings of photography be forgotten, why bother to do photography courses and go to Uni or college if anyone can take a picture with an ipad. Does it not undermine photography in it's self?

Will the history of photography be forgotten or rewritten, will the kids of tomorrow actually know what a proper camera is? Can you imagine them finding one in Granddad loft and saying where is the phone part to talk into, To understand tomorrow you have to know the past..... I am not a Luddite, but if a thing is worth doing well it is worth doing properly and to me that is having a grasp of understanding in what you are doing,

Besides I much rather carry a camera than an ipad, they don't even come with a neck strap or fit in your pocket LOLTongue
and I hate seeing all these black or grey tablets being held up in the air blocking the view for all those behind, everything has it place in this world, and ipads and smart phones are universal communication devices not a proper camera.IMO Rant over Smile
9 Jan 2014 9:52PM

Quote:I don't have an ipad, I don't even have a "smart Phone", but I have a camera


Excellent.. me neither..
Agree with your other sentiments too..

Yes, I believe some prominent photographers have taken shots with phones and tablets, (publicity stunt..?) give 'em their due though, it probably proves it's the eye behind that counts, but I refuse to believe it's their weapon of everyday choice... Smile
Carabosse e2
11 39.5k 269 England
10 Jan 2014 12:52PM

Quote:I don't have an ipad, I don't even have a "smart Phone", but I have a camera


For many, though, it is the other way round - a smartphone, a tablet.... but no camera other than that incorporated in the aforesaid phone and tablet.

I sometimes carry a smartphone, a tablet and two cameras (or a camera and a camcorder). And I come home having not taken a single shot! clown-dark.jpg

keithh e2
10 23.2k 33 Wallis And Futuna
10 Jan 2014 2:21PM
Video killed the radio star.
I think cameras on phones can be great. For a while the only camera I had was the 8mp offering on the HTC Sensation XE I had, I got some great shots with it and am glad I was able to get them. But in my mind a dedicated camera is a MUST have for anyone who is even half-way serious about photography.
19 Jan 2014 10:53AM
Now that the Nokia Lumia 1020 can output its files in DNG format, there is even more potential for these things to provide end results that are every bit as good as many compact cameras.

Many will see having two devices as an inconvenience, given this comparable image quality.
Evertonian 1 461 England
19 Jan 2014 10:59AM
I just don't see how a cameraphone, using a small meniscus for a lens can compete with a 16 element optically ground lens fitted to a quality engineered body.
brian1208 e2
11 10.4k 12 United Kingdom
19 Jan 2014 12:04PM
To go by some of the comments I get from dossers who visit my exhibitions and craft stalls you and I are out of touch with the real world Evertonian.

I know that because they all tell me "My mate can do better than you on his mobile", so it must be true Tongue
KenTaylor e2
10 3.0k 2 United Kingdom
19 Jan 2014 12:05PM

Quote:I just don't see how a cameraphone, using a small meniscus for a lens can compete with a 16 element optically ground lens fitted to a quality engineered body.


Give it time
mikehit e2
5 6.8k 11 United Kingdom
19 Jan 2014 1:00PM

Quote:I just don't see how a cameraphone, using a small meniscus for a lens can compete with a 16 element optically ground lens fitted to a quality engineered body.


You are making the assumption that ultimate quality and low DOF are the only things that matter. For a screen saver, a thumbnail or a 6x4 print the phone is probably just as good. Or why take a hulking 5DIII when the first thing you do a is knock the crap our of the image by adding an effect (instagram, lomo or pinhole). How quickly do you want to get it to Facebook? etc etc etc.

And if you are that obsessed with image quality why are you using a DSLR when you should be using a medium format?



Quote:Give it time

I saw some bloody good photos of the london olympics - taken with an iphone held up to a binocular eyepiece. At no point did I think 'they should have used a better camera'

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