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Are proper cameras doomed?


1 Apr 2014 5:59PM
If you could make camera phones as good as real cameras, what would they have to do?
Just come down to lenses and features?

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TanyaH e2
11 687 79 United Kingdom
2 Apr 2014 1:16PM
I actually like the feel of a DSLR in my hands when taking photos. I have taken images on my phone, but I don't have a lead to get them off onto the PC (second hand phone) so they just sit there. Whereas using a 'proper' camera system makes me think about what I'm doing, what I want to achieve and slows me down. It makes me think more.
dpr59 e2
172 United Kingdom
27 Apr 2014 9:33PM
Cheap plastic lens cheap image...
Anyone not interested in the image quality will be happy, but then the Kodak Instamatic sold well.
But these will never replace even decent value cameras.
A good lens will always be the issue.
I've just 'paired' my Olympus Stylus with my phone, I can now transfer a quality image to the phone for 'sharing' in whatever forum I feel inclined.
The phone is a LG P880 with a decent resolution. but let still a small plastic lens.
Pairing with a camera will be, for me, the accepted norm going forward.
28 Apr 2014 8:07AM
I use a Nikon DSLR , Panasonic Bridge , and compact, and have a string of Minolta and Pentax Film SLRs, but I don't subscribe to the modern notion that "Cheap Camera" equals "Cheap photos"
Great images are not the sharpest and clearest, they are the best in composition and lighting, and timing.
I set myself a challenge to do a Blipfoto every day for a year on my Motorola Moto G , which had a camera that was slated as "poor" in test reports.
The purpose was to to take me back to my roots in the 1960's when I couldn't afford fancy cameras and lenses, and rediscover what a "normal" lens could do..
Darned good fun!
Frankly for most people the results are pretty good, what's lacking is decent Zoom lenses.
31 Oct 2014 7:05AM
Ive not read all twenty pages of this thread so apologies if its already been said but I'll feel self conscious about using my DSLR when people do about using their Ipad
SteveCharles
12 2.3k 18 England
31 Oct 2014 10:02AM
Why feel self conscious using a camera among those ipad-wielding idiots who can't experience a real event or place of interest without watching it played instead on a screen held in front of their face for the duration? It is a kind of scary and fascinating aspect of contemporary life that for some an experience isn't real unless viewed on an lcd.

I sometimes take only film cameras on holiday specifically so that I experience it for real, and not through the back of a digital camera.
franken e2
12 3.3k 4 Wales
31 Oct 2014 4:34PM

Quote:I sometimes take only film cameras on holiday specifically so that I experience it for real, and not through the back of a digital camera.


You'd be viewing through glass in a compact film camera or mirrors and glass with a film SLR.
3 Nov 2014 4:11PM

Quote:Phone cameras has some adventages, however I think the profesional cameras won't die. Cause the high quality photos will always be wanted. For making print photos or gifts. Even non professionals buy professional cameras for home usage.


Ah, but what happens when camera phone technology catches up with professional cameras? It's bound to eventually. Will you still buy a camera when your phone can do the same?
keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
3 Nov 2014 5:05PM
Ah, but what happens if high end cameras always produce better than even the best camera phone - there's no reason why one system would stagnate.
3 Nov 2014 7:33PM
Ah, unless manufacturers shift focus to a wider, larger audience. I imagine that compact camera sales have dropped dramatically due to the decent quality of your average camera phone (I have no data to back this up, so it's merely speculation).

No, you're right, there will probably always be a place for a serious camera, but I reckon as phone technology gets better and better, less and less people will see a need to have a serious camera.

My dad, for example, was a hobbyist photographer. He owned a pretty nice 35mm Minolta and quickly jumped on the digital bandwagon and picked up compacts and superzooms. Shortley after I started working at ePz, he bought himself an SLR. This was around the time iPhones started becoming popular. He then went back to a small compact camera and now, doesn't own a camera at all because the phone does enough for him. Saying that, I wouldn't say he's a photographer, more of a snapper.

Saying all this, lightfield cameras seem very interesting....maybe this is where serious cameras will progress.
keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
3 Nov 2014 7:40PM
But they've always been there, the 110, 127, Disc, 35mm Halina plastic box brigade but now they have a phone camera. Its whether the manufacturers of phones can convince users that the phone camera is all they need.........but hang on they don't have to because at the moment as long as the phone camera takes a half decent Facebook shot its the Dogs.

Its whether the camera makers can convince them its not enough.
What I can't see at the moment is the ergonomics of phone cameras equaling the trad camera. Samsung have a good try with the Galaxy Phone/Cam hybrids but most reviewers still see it as a phone and then mark it down because it doesn't fit in the back pocket so well. We still have that divide and will have for some yet.
3 Nov 2014 7:43PM

Quote:Its whether the camera makers can convince them its not enough.


Totally agree. And yes, camera phones are horrible to hold. Maybe one day we won't need to use our hands...Google Glass anyone?
keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
3 Nov 2014 7:49PM
I have this vision of the 02 arena and 15,000 Google Glass Goggles trained on 1 Direction's grandkids.
3 Nov 2014 7:55PM
Google Goggles would have been a better name

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