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Are we all to be ripped off?


keith selmes
11 7.1k 1 United Kingdom
2 May 2013 9:09PM

Quote:where do photographers themselves stand on 'borrowing' images to add to their own.
I probably wouldn't call it photography, and it (the "borrowed" work) needs to be public domain (in the legal sense) or properly licensed.



Quote:Textures, composites, digital (cough) art are very often created using images on loan. A flock of birds here, a moon there, a wall, a floor, a cracking wall, an old tv, all right clicked and moulded to fit a new work.

Is this OK?

Where I use textures for non photographic work, I prefer to use my own photographs, or work up from scratch. This avoids the headache of tracking provenance, ensuring the right licence and attribution are used etc.
The other day I did something different, and wound up with about an A4 page of attributions, and having to double check everything could be used on the same CC licence. Lengthy process.

Of course it's OK, people specifically make the stuff available for use, and I put some of mine up on CC licences as well.
We wouldn't do it if we didn't mean it. Same thing for music tracks and sound effects.

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Ade_Osman e2
11 4.5k 36 England
3 May 2013 5:53AM
If you can't use your own original work, why the f*** bother......Any fool can copy or borrow work. Don't tell me Keith, you're in favour of this new Copyright Legislation the present government want to implement whereby it will be open season on any orphaned work or part thereof. I had you down as being a bit better than that! Wink
saltireblue e2
4 4.3k 26 Norway
3 May 2013 7:11AM

Quote:

How can it be OK, Malc, surely theft of an image is theft?



Sorry, forgot one important word:


Quote:There's a world of difference between legally using / combining stock images, textures et al and using them in a multi-layer image..
keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
3 May 2013 12:44PM
I think nothing, Ade of this pathetic attempt to bring an archaic law into the digital age by simply brushing it under the carpet - but I'm asking because there are plenty of images here on EPZ that contain photo's on loan to make a digital work and it is sites like this one that will be vocal (ish) about the new legislation.
Nick_w e2
7 4.1k 99 England
3 May 2013 1:58PM
To play devils advocate - what is the difference between using others images without permission, and say using a hooky copy of photoshop, or Chinese flashes / triggers etc that contravine european patent laws, copying CD's, videos etc. Arn't most of us being a bit hypocritical?

Its all steeling someone elses interlectural property - isn't it?
Carabosse e2
11 39.7k 269 England
3 May 2013 2:52PM

Quote:To play devils advocate - what is the difference between using others images without permission, and say using a hooky copy of photoshop, or Chinese flashes / triggers etc that contravine european patent laws, copying CD's, videos etc.


In principle.............. none whatsoever Smile

Except we are not Adobe or the makers of flashes, CDs, videos etc, so we feel more strongly when it happens to our property! Wink
JackAllTog e2
5 4.0k 58 United Kingdom
3 May 2013 5:41PM

Quote:To play devils advocate - what is the difference between using others images without permission, and say using a hooky copy of photoshop, or Chinese flashes / triggers etc that contravine european patent laws, copying CD's, videos etc.

In principle.............. none whatsoever Smile

Except we are not Adobe or the makers of flashes, CDs, videos etc, so we feel more strongly when it happens to our property! Wink


Also we don't have the budget to take regular action for abuses so should be protected by legislation, not sold out by it.

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