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are you supplied gas and electric from Npower? the tax evader?


pabloisme 4 566 England
30 Apr 2013 9:03AM
Npower: another TAX CHEAT has been rumbled! Over the past few days a top tax expert has been investigating their accounts. Today the results of that investigation are splashed across the S*n newspaper - where it will be read by millions.

Last week it was found out Npower hadn't paid a penny in corporation tax in the last three years.

Now a tax expert paid for by donations from 38 Degrees members has uncovered the likely explanation.
They're funneling profits made in the UK through a shell company in Malta.
It looks like this has helped them dodge 60 million in tax over the last four years!

NOW YOU MAY WONDER WHY YOU NEED TO PAY EXTRA TAX? or buy gas and lekky from them!

Weve got them. And its donations from 38 Degrees members that have uncovered this scam.
Other tax dodging companies have backed down once the glare of publicity is on them. This newspaper coverage, and our 100,000 signature strong petition is a great start. Now its time to take this straight to Npower's chief executive.

Please click here to send Npower CEO Paul Massara an email demanding he meets with 38 Degrees members and tells us how he'll put an end to this immoral tax dodge:
https://secure.38degrees.org.uk/email-npower-ceo

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cats_123 e2
10 4.3k 25 Northern Ireland
30 Apr 2013 9:13AM
not sure why you're pushing your politics at us
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 9:23AM
'Clicktivism' makes him feel good and he just wants to spread the news about how just good he feels. Bless....


(to be honest it is putting me off ever reading 38degrees again)
KevSB 10 1.5k 5 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 9:25AM

Quote:Not sure why you're pushing your politics at us


Healthy Debate section, He is entitled to express his opinion. and no different from those touting votes for an external photo comps. Just on a subject that is more important to Pablo. Your choice to read this section of the forums.
I'm at the despondent Phase, these campaigns are good but most politicians seem to ignore them, and when someone has a genuine good cause then everyone else starts a similar vote watering down the intended good work of the original.

For example the recent Ian Duncan smith vote, It was so successful with votes getting 500k, highest ever recorded. Totally ignored and within days a vote was started against nearly every member of the cabinet making it a mockery of the intended statement it tried to make.
RogBrown 7 3.0k 10 England
30 Apr 2013 9:31AM
Sorry, don't agree. Every company has a duty to its shareholders to maximise its profits & therefore dividends in any legal way possible. If the government don't like it, they should close the loopholes. If you don't like it, just consider what you'd say if I offered you the opportunity to halve your tax bill legally. Would you refuse?
thewilliam 6 4.9k
30 Apr 2013 9:52AM
Some years back, a doorstep canvasser from Npower forged my signature on a "change of supplier" contract and it took many weeks of hassle to get things back on track. I was told that I was one of many so Npower has been on our black-list ever since.

The bright side is that they wrote a cheque for my favourite charity so there was some benefit.
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 11:01AM
Of course, avoiding tax means lower overheads which means lower prices. So you could discuss lower energy prices vs lower taxes.

Lower energy prices mean I get to keep the difference. If the energy company paid more taxes, I am pretty sure the government would not give me a lower tax in return because they would find yet another pet project to spend it on.
Hallie 1 166 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 11:10AM

Quote: If you don't like it, just consider what you'd say if I offered you the opportunity to halve your tax bill legally. Would you refuse?


No, not when wealthy corporations and other persons get it. As it stands I pay full tax and believe they should as well. That probably seems unreasonable to some.
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 11:22AM

Quote:No, not when wealthy corporations and other persons get it.

So you don't have a moral objection then.....but in a warped sort of way it would be their fault because if they didn't do it, you wouldn't. Interesting.
Hallie 1 166 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 11:33AM

Quote:No, not when wealthy corporations and other persons get it.
So you don't have a moral objection then.....but in a warped sort of way it would be their fault because if they didn't do it, you wouldn't. Interesting.



If everyone plays by the same rules I don't have a problem. But you'll likely have some issue with that as well.
RogBrown 7 3.0k 10 England
30 Apr 2013 11:54AM

Quote:If everyone plays by the same rules I don't have a problem. But you'll likely have some issue with that as well

You can play by the same rules. Just get yourself a clued-up tax accountant. Of course, he'll charge you more than he saves you but that's life. Sad
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 12:04PM

Quote:If everyone plays by the same rules I don't have a problem. But you'll likely have some issue with that as well.


Why would you think I have an issue with it? My comment was more that on other threads you talk about a moral obligation to pay tax due to the state, yet if others are doing it you are happy to do the same. Which, of course, is the justification they would use. You may be happy with such ambiguity but the tone of comments on other threads do now seem rather odd.
Hallie 1 166 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 12:13PM

Quote:If everyone plays by the same rules I don't have a problem. But you'll likely have some issue with that as well.

Why would you think I have an issue with it? My comment was more that on other threads you talk about a moral obligation to pay tax due to the state, yet if others are doing it you are happy to do the same. Which, of course, is the justification they would use. You may be happy with such ambiguity but the tone of comments on other threads do now seem rather odd.



I don't know if you just have a total failure to grasp a simple concept or if you're being facetious.
llareggub 4 756 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 12:45PM
I always get concerned when politicians play the morality card, tax is an act of parliament and both individuals and corporations have a legal obligation to ensure that they meet their tax liabilities. Companies are legal entities and not individuals, expecting a corporation to act within an ethical framework over and above a legal framework is incredibly naive!

The simple truth of the matter is that increasing the complexity of the tax "code" inevitably leads to those with smart accountants being able to reduce their tax liabilities, responsibility for this lies firmly at the feet of the treasury.

Just my tupence worth Smile
30 Apr 2013 1:01PM
I see the treasury is riddled with accountants ON LOAN to help them (the incompetant treasury?) for free from the BIG bean counters! (look'em up) sadly writing in loophole's YOU cant use BUT they can!

you have been had!

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