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are you supplied gas and electric from Npower? the tax evader?


30 Apr 2013 3:43PM

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The difficulty is that like any Government Department The Treasury can't afford to pay the true going rate for an accountant, therefore it has to buy in (or borrow) expertise, or even worse pay consultants to perform the miracles that most (untrained) Ministers want.



I do hope they are not in the justice system and police force?

cat man: you sound like you are in the treasury! or doing their PR?

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mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 3:45PM

Quote:cat man: you sound like you are in the treasury! or doing their PR?

heaven forbid he should actually have a valid point...
RogBrown 7 3.0k 10 England
30 Apr 2013 3:57PM
I don't care who Npower do or don't pay their taxes to. I've just moved back to them cos they're offering me the cheapest deal at the moment. When somebody comes along with a better deal, I'll change to them.
30 Apr 2013 4:00PM
I suppose someone will pick up your small savings like you!

you or someone will pay their share!
cats_123 e2
10 4.2k 25 Northern Ireland
30 Apr 2013 4:09PM

Quote:

I do hope they are not in the justice system and police force?

cat man: you sound like you are in the treasury! or doing their PR?



The police and justice ministers ( Home Office) are no different to any other Govt Dept or Agency. They all bow to policies formed by which ever political party is in power at the time.

I have worked with The Treasury in the past, but am not defending them as such, just merely pointing out the frustration that is often felt when 'blame' is cast unwittingly.

We live in a democratic country and we appoint our MPs to represent us (even if they are not of the party we favour and/or voted for). Similarly, we are fortunate that we can choose our energy supplier or coffee Batista. Companies respond, in the main, to financial pressure (rather than political) and so the recourse is to remove your custom.
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 4:13PM

Quote:Oh it's troll man!Tongue


Yep. That's right. I admit that the only reason I have an opinion is because I am a secret employee of the government paid to support their point of view in forums such as this.

Now let's see - you have joined today, made 10 posts in a single thread; two of those to make valid points with the rest disparaging of anyone who disagrees with you. is this what passes for debate on 38degrees?
thewilliam 6 4.8k
30 Apr 2013 5:00PM

Quote:I see the treasury is riddled with accountants ON LOAN to help them (the incompetant treasury?) for free from the BIG bean counters! (look'em up) sadly writing in loophole's YOU cant use BUT they can!


The corporations might have paid a lot of money in party donations to have these loopholes written into the law. Why else would anybody want to "give" millions to a political party?
Kako 8 143
30 Apr 2013 5:40PM
mikehit,

[quote.


it means higher profits for the company and higher dividend payouts to its shareholders. The customer won't get a look in.
That is a false dichotomy - I agree on the profit motive (or they would not do it) but that does not preclude any benefits to the customer. Do you have any evidence that if they paid tax in UK that prices would not be affected?


If the energy companies had any altruistic streak in them they would not be seeking to evade tax in the first place. Corporate Energy companies do not voluntarily lower prices to customers without the threat of a big 'stick'. Every 'concession' they 'offer' has to be cajoled out of them.
llareggub 4 756 United Kingdom
30 Apr 2013 5:55PM

Quote:mikehit,

If the energy companies had any altruistic streak in them



No companies have an "altruistic" streak in them, the larger the company the worst it becomes, people who believe that companies have or should have a moral compass are fooling themselves.

Individuals have moral compasses groups of individuals have no such thing!

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