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    chivychiv
    11 Apr 2010 - 9:22 PM
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    I have recently purchased a Canon eos500d camera and really have not got a clue. I can take a normal photo and am prety pleased with the results but in general i have not got a clue what i am doing. The moon and stars have long been a pasion of mine so i thought it was time that i got rid of my old digital camera and bought a real one that could take quality pictures. I have tried taking pictures of the moon but all i get is a ball of light. Could somebody tell me the best way to take a proper picture of the moon and then maybe tell me how i can see further and get pictures of other planets and stars. I do not know what other equipment , if any, i would need or even the best place to purchase it from. Money is tight and i saved long and hard to get my camera and would really like to learn about photography in general. Please can anybody help or even face me in the right direction of getting some lessons.
    Thanking you in advance for your help.
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    Kevin Chivers

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    11 Apr 2010 - 9:22 PM

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    Hey chivychiv, first of all I am not a dedicated astro photographer myself. (I am a photomicrographer)

    But I do have many friends who really enjoy astro photography and the 500d is a perfectly suitable camera to get some really good results.

    First of all, what astronomic gear do you have currently? - I will be able to tell you if it is easily compatible with your camera.

    - if you have none, then I would suggest finding out about local astro clubs, they will LOVE to have a photographer on board, trust me... and most probably will have a rather large telescope that will support the weight of you camera and have motorised tracking.

    If you do not have a telescope, the best thing I can advise you to by yourself is have a look into "startrails" photography, for that all you need is a tripod, your camera and a few bits of software.

    (for star trails, you point the camera at the sky, and then combine multiple exposures of about 20 seconds into a single image.)

    Photos with a telescope and astronomical objects

    A guide to amazing startrails (stacking method or single exposure)

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    User_Removed
    11 Apr 2010 - 10:42 PM
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    Google the Stargazers Lounge, a very helpful forum dedicated to astronomy.

    The moon is pretty bright against the darkness of night, so auto exposure is a big no no. One thing to consider when togging the moon is that it moves a quarter of its diameter each minute, so within 4 minutes it has shifted the distance of its diameter. But this shouldnt worry you if you select the correct ISO and exposure, less than 5 seconds.

    Ideally you will be using a 500mm lens for the moon otherwise all you will get is a little white light in a sea of darkness.

    For widefield star photography, any lens will do, i use my kit lens on my 350D, as well as my 70-300 zoom. Even at the 18mm mark i can capture the faintest star in the sky, even those invisible to the naked eye, but there is a bit of photoshopping involved to make those small points of light shine brightly, its easy to figure that one out Wink

    Really for photographing planets, galaxies and nebulae you need need a good telescope with a good attachment, which you will find links to once you have googled the above website. Now for the crappy bit, this game is not cheap, telescopes cost a lot of money, even more for tracking telescopes, which you will need if photographing deep space.

    As Swills said, you wont go wrong by finding a local group, astronomers are more than happy to pass on information, and really are helpful, in fact within a week of joining the above site i was invited to a meet at Kelling Heath later this month.

    bugdozer
    27 Apr 2010 - 10:18 PM
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    I got into photography through an interest in astronomy and have been doing astrophotography for 20 years. It's possible to get good pictures with fairly simple gear, your Canon should be very well suited to it. Manual exposures are what you'll be needing almost all the time, as cameras find it difficult to meter such things as the Moon. A full Moon can often be captured well with an exposure of around 1/500 at about f6, but do bracket widely and see what works best. For lesser phases of the Moon its brightness drops more than you think and longer times are needed. I find with my 105mm zoom I get a resolution of about 40km per pixel on the Moon's surface. As others have said, a really long lens is better, 500mm will do well if you can afford one (or borrow one!) Bear in mind the bigger the magnification the more movement will show up, and another thing I often do is take pictures using the self timer so my finger pressing the shutter does not cause a tiny shake. Of course even for the faster exposures a tripod is a must.
    For photos of stars and constellations, a wider lens will do fine. With a 35mm lens you'll find you can use an exposure up to about 30 seconds before trails will appear (dependent on where in the sky you are pointing). To get good trails, leave the shutter open a few minutes longer.
    For really spectacular shots, I agree with the advice to find an astronomy society and they will help you use their equipment for guiding/piggybacking.
    The best thing I'd say is to just experiment with the equipment you have, bracket widely and take it from there. Don't spend a lot of money initially as you may be happy with the results from what you already have.

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