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Lucian
Lucian  4541 forum posts
15 Oct 2013 - 11:00 AM

Is there any wedding photographers finding that they are getting more and more enquiries from people who want to spend peanuts on wedding photography. I cant believe the amount of enquiries I get from people wanting their wedding photographed for 200. Is anyone else getting stupid called and e-mails from brides to be wanting for nothing? I would be interested to hear your stories.

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sitan1
sitan1  6471 forum posts United Kingdom
15 Oct 2013 - 11:05 AM

There is obviously a budget wedding category where people can't afford or won't spend decent money, or they just don't appreciate the work and effort that goes into doing a wedding photographers job.
So many people are offering very cheap budget packages now to earn a quick buck but what standard of photography do they offer for that price.
Just ignore these requests if you don't offer that sort of service and leave the cheapies to someone else.

ade_mcfade
ade_mcfade e2 Member 1014788 forum postsade_mcfade vcard England216 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2013 - 11:11 AM

Save yourself the pain and torture - spell out your prices on your website

Maybe your website and quality of work would point to a 200 budget - indicating you need to make changes if you are not in the 200 market

keithh
keithh e2 Member 1022911 forum postskeithh vcard Wallis and Futuna31 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2013 - 12:56 PM

Most photographers keep their eye out for a bargain and would obtain the best price they could. Cuts both ways.

bppowell
bppowell  122125 forum posts England2 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2013 - 1:25 PM

If I had nothing booked then for 200 I would photograph their wedding and put the shots on a CD.

I would make it clear what service they were getting.

pulsar69
pulsar69  101611 forum posts United Kingdom6 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2013 - 1:43 PM


Quote: Is there any wedding photographers finding that they are getting more and more enquiries from people who want to spend peanuts on wedding photography. I cant believe the amount of enquiries I get from people wanting their wedding photographed for 200. Is anyone else getting stupid called and e-mails from brides to be wanting for nothing? I would be interested to hear your stories.

No, you pay peanuts you get monkeys.

Last Modified By Moderator Team at 15 Oct 2013 - 1:52 PM
llareggub
llareggub  4683 forum posts United Kingdom
15 Oct 2013 - 1:48 PM

I can understand it being frustrating, however I think that if some one were to be insulted by such a practice then they should probably consider whether they should really be in business.

Last Modified By llareggub at 15 Oct 2013 - 1:48 PM
gvet
gvet  442 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2013 - 1:57 PM

I think its the same in any business, you'll always get people who both provide and want cheap services. In my line of business (not photography) we have a cheap competitor a mile down the road. Clients initially don't see the difference, and often go there to save some money. The majority come back after their first experience. My advice, stick to your pricing, do a good job, you might see a transient dip but your work will come to speak for itself.
As a slight aside, went to a wedding recently who's photographer advertised as 'affordable' and the results speak for themselves. Unimaginative, poorly processed shots from a really unique environment, I'd have been disappointed producing those for someone, let alone charging for them.
Good will out!
Grin

puertouk
puertouk  21065 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2013 - 3:12 PM

Stick to your guns and don't belittle yourself in doing cheap weddings. These people are after professional results for nothing. The 200 merchants are amateurs, who think they are professionals because they charge 200 for a wedding. The money goes straight into their pockets, so no tax, VAT or anything. To them it's beer money. Try and get hold of some of these so-called professional images and then show the brides - to -be, the quality, compared to your own. I'm sure it will be a eye opener to some if not all. Try and get newspaper and magazine clippings of the horror stories of these togs who charge 200.
Good luck
Stephen

scottishphototours

In March 2013, you were bemoaning the weddings business and thought that 350 weddings, and lots of them, was the way to go.

What you're seeing here is one of two things:

1 - The 200 brigade are actually just the 350 brigade, but with less brain-cells and more brass-neck, or
2 - They've seen your work and reckon you're just starting out and are not worth any more than 200.

Easy...

Graysta
Graysta  91134 forum posts England
15 Oct 2013 - 7:24 PM

Owww much 200 quid for tekkin't photo's tha must B reccin it in (raking it in)
Our lad as one of them Polirized cameras wot give thee Pictures Reet there & then I could Av getten im to do em for a pint or 3, and tha would av pictures that neet.

Yorkshire Brides they love a bargain

They will try and do
one asked if she could cut the cost due to not allowing enough time for photographs in her planning,Then proceeded to look through sample albums and tell me the shots she wanted I lost the plot at her 120th. as some of these where from venues such as Hever Castle and like the Village church and local pub did not look the same to me I had to tell her that I was the wrong man for the Job.

Last Modified By Graysta at 15 Oct 2013 - 7:38 PM
MikeA
MikeA  91168 forum posts England
15 Oct 2013 - 7:38 PM

Cannot understand why wedding togs think they anything special. If you are that easily upset go and get a proper job Tongue

Andy_Cundell
15 Oct 2013 - 7:47 PM

I just did a wedding for free.................now thats cutting the lot of you!!Grin (long story that was covered in another thread, if I never did it, they were going to rely on friends and families photos)

And I'm never going to do one again!!! I was there from 0900 until 1930, with a mate tog and it took me all the next day to process the images (only the 400 I took!).............I wouldn't do it for 200, thats 100 each!!!!!

The people of today just don't realise the skill needed in this specialist type of photography because everybody has a digital camera or a phone with a camera on it and every now and again, they get a decent 'snap' from it. This then makes them believe that anyone can do a wedding. Ohh that will make a good photo...........and all you get is snaps. Joe public don't actually seem to accept that software is quite expensive, hardware is expensive and you are guaranteeing them you will capture one of the greatest days of their lives.

I know the business world is harsh and people will under cut others to get a job BUT I think you real pro togs should be slagging off the rank amateur photographers (yeah, like me) who produce crap quality snaps at wedding (mine were bloody awesome!) because they bought a cheap DSLR and have 2 lenses (I have 4 lenses Grin ). You should be slagging them off like mad so the people hear about the horror stories of wedding photography and how you will guarantee it wont happen to you!Get your stories in all the wedding magazines how these people ruin the day Blush

I contacted a tog mate after my wedding experience and told him I really enjoyed the day and produced a good 100 photo's of good quality (in my humble opinion and the Bride and Groom were ecstatic with my images and the fact I had them on facebook the next evening!) and I also said when I'm asked to do it again, I will answer with two words.............

Iconik Photography (It's the name of his business !)

Just oust them out on Watchdog and in the wedding magazines!

Andy

Ohh and they also don't realise, in the 'old' days, the photographer made his money from reprints as well. With digital imaging, you are basically cutting that off completely!

Last Modified By Andy_Cundell at 15 Oct 2013 - 7:51 PM
Graysta
Graysta  91134 forum posts England
15 Oct 2013 - 7:55 PM


Quote: Cannot understand why wedding togs think they anything special. If you are that easily upset go and get a proper job

Be careful I alway's thought like that .
From a Photographers point there is a load of work goes into a wedding, It is not easy money and most weddings account for the best part of a 40 hr week from start to finish.
Having worked with Yorkshire Wedding photographer of the year on year I have had my eye's opened from bookings to album It is hard work.

You mention Upset. I take your comment onboard.
Most People or Photographer's see every wedding as a challenge. It's not about being picky or venue its about getting the best of the day for your couple. Big - Gay - Rain - Wind - Ugly - or even the totally shagable. I have learnt everyone is a photographic challenge.

saltireblue
saltireblue Site Moderator 43842 forum postssaltireblue vcard Norway23 Constructive Critique Points
15 Oct 2013 - 7:57 PM


Quote: The people of today just don't realise the skill needed in this specialist type of photography because everybody has a digital camera or a phone with a camera on it and every now and again, they get a decent 'snap' from it. This then makes them believe that anyone can do a wedding. Ohh that will make a good photo...........and all you get is snaps. Joe public don't actually seem to accept that software is quite expensive, hardware is expensive and you are guaranteeing them you will capture one of the greatest days of their lives.

Applause.

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