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Lucian
Lucian  4505 forum posts
8 Jul 2013 - 1:00 PM

have you thought about just buying studio stands, adaptors, light modifiers and just using cheap third party speedlights instead of just studio heads. I have got a few yongnou speedlites that only cost 45 each and they are really good for portraits and they run on batterys so don't need electricity supply.

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Alda
Alda  146 forum posts United Kingdom27 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 2:40 PM

I do have a few off-camera flashes, but I don't know if they're good enough or strong enough for fine art nude work. I think the studio lights may be better for this, but I may be wrong TongueGrin

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1214383 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 3:02 PM

If your serious about studio photography proper strobes are best, you get modelling lights with these.

Speedlites might be better for the odd bit of location stuff were power could be a problem and you don`t own power packs.

arhb
arhb e2 Member 62052 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom67 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 6:08 PM

Yes very true Smile

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1214383 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 6:28 PM

Smile Smile

miptog
miptog  83529 forum posts United Kingdom61 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 6:43 PM


Quote: So it looks like it's between these three:

Metz: http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-metz-bl-400-twin-head-softbox-kit/p1537993?cm...

Elinchrom: http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-elinchrom-400-400-d-lite-4-rx-softbox/p153330...

Lastolite: http://www.wexphotographic.com/buy-lastolite-lumen8-twin-head-softbox-kit/p15184...

A few things to consider before you make your final choice:

Durability: If you anticipate that you will be using the lights heavily you need something that is durable.
Modifiers: These will likely "soak up" a lot of light, so the more power you have the better.

I think someone else mentioned it earlier in the thread; something like the Bowen Gemini 500 may be worth looking at.

Alda
Alda  146 forum posts United Kingdom27 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 6:47 PM

Eeeek, that's wayyyy above my budget lol. I shall be shooting mostly portraits/boudoir with softboxes, so will need softer light anyway. For my fine art nudes I will use with grids/snoots, so the 400 should have enough power???

I'm more confused than ever now Tongue

cattyal
cattyal e2 Member 85793 forum postscattyal vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 6:52 PM

How big is your potential studio?

Alda
Alda  146 forum posts United Kingdom27 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 7:00 PM

Possibly 1000 square foot (92 square m). Or another one that's a bit smaller (4m x 6m) - having a look at them this week.

cattyal
cattyal e2 Member 85793 forum postscattyal vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
8 Jul 2013 - 10:14 PM

Sorry I've not returned with my thoughts yet - a stack of phone calls this evening plus getting ready for a show which needs to be done by tonight - the phone calls kinda knackered everything up! I will return eventually!

cathal
cathal  9492 forum posts Ireland4 Constructive Critique Points
9 Jul 2013 - 12:37 PM

Have you considered these? Elemental have a range of studio flash systems to offer you, and they advertise on ePz too!

From my own experience using studio flash systems, mainly doing the type of work you are interested in, is that power is not everything. Typically, you will require softer, lower light. I would regularly use just one light, (there's only one sun, right?) and modify spills, etc. A twin head system would be more than sufficient, and if you went for a third head, then a low power one would suffice as these tend to be used as hair lights, etc.

You say that this is for a commercial venture, in which case I'd be inclined to say the budget is at the lower end of what you want to spend. Accessories and reflectors need to be considered also. You've some good shots in your portfolio, so what did you use to light these?

Let us all know what you decide.

miptog
miptog  83529 forum posts United Kingdom61 Constructive Critique Points
9 Jul 2013 - 4:09 PM


Quote: Eeeek, that's wayyyy above my budget lol. I shall be shooting mostly portraits/boudoir with softboxes, so will need softer light anyway. For my fine art nudes I will use with grids/snoots, so the 400 should have enough power???

I'm more confused than ever now

Keep within your budget. The modifiers that come with the kits you mention should be fine for head and shoulder and 3/4 length shots. You will need a much larger modifier to get even lighting on a full body shot, so you may need to factor that into your budget as well.

You have to start somewhere, so work with what you can afford, and as the business grows, invest in new kit as required.


Quote: You say that this is for a commercial venture, in which case I'd be inclined to say the budget is at the lower end of what you want to spend. Accessories and reflectors need to be considered also. You've some good shots in your portfolio, so what did you use to light these?

I agree with Cathal comment above.

Alda
Alda  146 forum posts United Kingdom27 Constructive Critique Points
9 Jul 2013 - 5:24 PM

Thanks for that Cathal. Actually, this one looks better, and also has a nice big softbox (90 x 90cm), and two reflector dishes:

http://www.studio-flash.com/trinityt4twin.html

Would that do the trick? I can just get a snoot/grid.

GrinGrinGrin

Oh, and most of the nude/glamour shots in my pf were taken at studio tuition days, so I didn't have much to do with the lighting. The tutor, however, didn't really teach much and is a little bit reluctant to answer questions SadTongue.

Last Modified By Alda at 9 Jul 2013 - 7:06 PM
arhb
arhb e2 Member 62052 forum postsarhb vcard United Kingdom67 Constructive Critique Points
9 Jul 2013 - 6:31 PM

That is a shame Alda, as the lighting set ups are key, in my opinion to producing quality art nude work., or any studio lighting based work for that matter.

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1214383 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
9 Jul 2013 - 7:44 PM

It might worth keeping a little aside for a light meter, there not essential but they certainly make life easier in the studio.

Cheap basic flash meters start at around 50 and a lot more for the all singing and dancing meters some can be 500 or more.

Sekonics or Polaris do some good basic meters for around 130.

Last Modified By Paul Morgan at 9 Jul 2013 - 7:48 PM

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