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dynexclick
1 Nov 2012 - 6:29 PM

I've caused a right old/young hoo har now Grin

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cuffit
cuffit  7174 forum posts England2 Constructive Critique Points
1 Nov 2012 - 6:42 PM

Isn't Ephotozine just a very large camera club, albeit a virtual one, but with all the same issues? Members are much the same as those in clubs but you don't see them so who knows how old they are and if you don't look at the info supplied with a photo you don't know what brand or type of camera a photo was taken with - but Canon v Nikon discussions (?) continue. Some good photos receive few votes and some other photos receive a hundred and who knows why - just like the judging at the club competition then.

You can put some comments on a forum and be ignored, just as you might feel unwelcome at a camera club. It was mentioned at the front-end of this thread that camera clubs throw up plenty of 'birds on sticks', well plenty of that here, too, although it is just as difficult to get one of those right as it is any other aspect of photography and we all have our favourite subjects. Check out the forums and you can, not too often thankfully, see flare ups on all sorts of things. Ephotozine is free to use of course (is that a good or a bad thing) but a fee if you want the bells and whistles - money up front for that (or just dip in for a short period at a cost) just like camera clubs.

I would agree though with GeordieDoug, having joined a camera club recently, that it does appear to be the domain of older people (me included I am afraid to say at 60-ish), women included in this case, but I thought the same when I went to one aged 35 and walked away accordingly. The club is friendly enough and the competitions are not dominated unless by good photos. But look at any motor race meeting, for example, and it tends to be older people taking the photos with high-end gear and mostly, but not exclusively, men - yet just about everybody has a camera of some sort whether mobile, compact or bridge. Generally speaking, youngsters tend to be 'doers' and want to get on and do things while some 'older' people retain an interest and put something back in at the same time - how many people here have organised something for a while and haven't been able to step away for lack of any more youthful volunteers, so the aged march on.

I like this site and all it has to offer, but probably only use a fraction of what it does offer. Similarly, I like pitching my photos against others as a way of improving and the club suits me better than Ephotozine at present, but it was/is Ephotozine that has improved me I think. I don't see the club as a social venue though. I wouldn't stick with a club if some people were as described in previous posts, I just think you need to find what suits you best and walk away from what doesn't. I expect the next generation are indeed doing great photographic things but on sites that I am not particularly interested in. Just like any business or venture, clubs and websites will change or whither away, but isn't that the way of it?

Chris

Johno450
Johno450  3 United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
3 Nov 2012 - 3:19 AM

I've only been doing photography part time for three years....I'd better go back to the drawing board Sad

John...

colinUK
colinUK  5 United Kingdom
11 Sep 2013 - 11:57 AM

I have been a member of various clubs around Manchester area and found all types of people there, the main thing with a lot of clubs is a lack of helping "Newbies" mostly down to possibly their shyness, as someone has said some close in summer months but have no get together nights planned.

I have now left Camera Club life with its syllabus and order, which is needed if you have 30-50 people turn up and say whats on?

I am now part of a Photography Group that's more social and anyone can come up with ideas for an evening, we also will help newcomers with any problems and we all now enjoy our photography, and people tend to help others iin many ways when they like a particular subject, ie wildlife or Motorsport, portraits etc.

Welcome Photography Group we are very small but happy and friendly bunch of folk.

snapperkate
11 Sep 2013 - 5:30 PM

Reading this with interest as I am looking to maybe join a camera club in the Wigan area

Last Modified By snapperkate at 11 Sep 2013 - 5:30 PM
Gundog
Gundog  1624 forum posts Scotland
12 Sep 2013 - 10:11 AM


Quote: Reading this with interest as I am looking to maybe join a camera club in the Wigan area

I think the best advice might be to join a camera club......





......but leave the Wigan area.





Blush

psiman
psiman  10551 forum posts Wales
12 Sep 2013 - 11:29 AM

Well arguably the best camera club in the world is based in Wigan, though you might have to set your sights a little lower to start with! Wink

mikehit
mikehit  56483 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
12 Sep 2013 - 12:04 PM

There's Wigan photographic and Wigan 10, the latter being created with the intention of winning international competitions (I think you are 'invited' to join, rather like Magnum for the clubbies). I heard a few weeks ago that Wigan 10 is disbanding because of 'artistic differences' but they seem to be still going.

keithh
keithh e2 Member 1023041 forum postskeithh vcard Wallis and Futuna33 Constructive Critique Points
12 Sep 2013 - 12:10 PM

Wigan 10 sound like just the sort of thing to avoid in an avoid like the plague situation.

das7
das7  133 forum posts
12 Sep 2013 - 2:09 PM

Wigan 10 have a high standard and some stunning pics and win everything in sight - but when you've seen one Goth montaged against a dungeon or castle wall at the Whitby Goth Festival - you've seen them all Blush very high standard though!


I am lucky to have two clubs nearby. One is a "Photographic Society", the other is a " Camera Club" I went to the Photographic Society first, it's nearer and I tested the water with a ready prepared question.

I got there early and asked the "chairman" "Is this the camera club?"
He looked at me horrified and pronounced, "No, this is a photographic society."

I stayed through a boring inept lightroom demo and never went back.

The next week, I went to the "Camera Club", which is further but had a warm welcome and an interesting evening - been there ever since.

I believe a good camera club where you feel welcomed can improve your enjoyment of photography no end. It also sets you a standard to achieve when you see what others are producing, especially in club competitions. Blush

If you had a bike, you would ride alone with little enjoyment - join a bike club - you not only put in more miles and enjoyment, but you see what standard you are at.

Same with a camera club! Blush







Blush

snapperkate
12 Sep 2013 - 2:52 PM

Well I just thought it might be a break from my kids and a place to meet like minded people - however I suspect most members are men!

Hazelmouse
12 Sep 2013 - 2:56 PM

Not necessarily. More than half our committee are women and probably half the membership is female. And we make a point of trying to welcome new members and help them with their photography.

psiman
psiman  10551 forum posts Wales
12 Sep 2013 - 3:21 PM

Interestingly the majority of our newer members in the past couple of years have been of the fairer sex.

I've also been a member of both a Photographic Society and a Camera Club. If its a Photographic Society it may mean it was established earlier but nowadays they tend to be very much the same and any differences you see are more likely to be down to the committee members than whether they're a society or a club.

Most camera clubs/photographic societies are just starting up again after the summer break so its a good time to go along and most of them are happy for you to come along to a few meetings before deciding whether you want to join or not.

Try before you buy!

Simon

Last Modified By psiman at 12 Sep 2013 - 3:27 PM
colinUK
colinUK  5 United Kingdom
12 Sep 2013 - 3:44 PM

Read the last few posts and noticed folk seem to be disappointed by initial reaction they get upon arrival, Our little group goes the other way as it is more socialised but we do experiment with oddball ideas, fun its called missing from some set regimes.

And like Gent above says we have a mixture of folk.too.He has a good ending try before you buy Colin

Gundog
Gundog  1624 forum posts Scotland
12 Sep 2013 - 5:06 PM


Quote: Well I just thought it might be a break from my kids and a place to meet like minded people - however I suspect most members are men!

Probably about 55/45 men/women in Stirling & District Camera Club.

(But I would like to see more competition judges of the female persuasion).

.

Last Modified By Gundog at 12 Sep 2013 - 5:06 PM

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