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Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314914 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:05 PM


Quote: Night time work, long exposure and light painting are long over due IMO


Quote: its nothing to do with flash and lighting

Would have thought all photography had something to do with lighting Smile


Quote: Strobe work is different from general "flash" work

Is it, its all the same to me

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Diana
Diana e2 Member 72011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:06 PM

but night work doesnt use flash lighting

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314914 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:08 PM

Still uses/needs lighting of some form or other Smile

Diana
Diana e2 Member 72011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:10 PM

yes but does not fall into the flash category and sometimes it doesnt for a long exposure ...(thats a silly argument all photogrpahy is about light, and if thats your argument then we only need one category) lighting ....duh!

Krakman
Krakman  73615 forum posts Scotland
17 Aug 2009 - 11:15 PM

If there's to be a separate category for seascapes, what about lakescapes? Or perhaps non-tidal-water-scapes to catch rivers too?

Only if you photograph the river using a high ISO, will that go into the high ISO category, or the non-tidal-water-scapes category?

And what about if you photograph a bit of sea but there's a rock visible in the foreground - will it then become a landscape?

Last Modified By Krakman at 17 Aug 2009 - 11:16 PM
Diana
Diana e2 Member 72011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:17 PM

its not even worth arguing the point with this nonsense going on....

night shooting is different .....

can we have intelligence levels too when we upload to by pass all this cr*p!

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314914 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:19 PM


Quote: Yes but does not fall into the flash category and sometimes it doesnt for a long exposure

I`m guessing that lighting in with flash is referring to hot lights, so that pretty much covers all night photography, street photography at night, painting with light etc.

If a styles not there then just tag.

Krakman
Krakman  73615 forum posts Scotland
17 Aug 2009 - 11:22 PM


Quote: night shooting is different .....

Yes, Dear

Last Modified By Krakman at 17 Aug 2009 - 11:22 PM
Pete
Pete Site Moderator 1318433 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:25 PM


Quote: I`m guessing that lighting in with flash is referring to hot lights, so that pretty much covers all night photography, street photography at night, painting with light etc.

Exactly. When we set up this group we knew we would have torch light, painting with flash, street light etc. It's the best category for it. It's just being grouped with flash makes people think lighting means studio lighting. It doesn't. Its any form of lights been used to illuminate the subject...but we will be splitting that group into sub category stuff...and you can go very specific using tags now.

Tags are great if use correctly!

Diana
Diana e2 Member 72011 forum postsDiana vcard Netherlands19 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:25 PM

no it doesn't use flash


Quote: Tags are great if use correctly!

lol !! Wink

Last Modified By Diana at 17 Aug 2009 - 11:27 PM
Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314914 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
17 Aug 2009 - 11:37 PM


Quote: Tags are great if use correctly!

To the best part yes, it don`t like E3 though Sad

Smile Smile

Nick_w
Nick_w e2 Member 73818 forum postsNick_w vcard England99 Constructive Critique Points
18 Aug 2009 - 8:02 AM


Quote: All it needs currently is for those who shoot strobism (for example) is to put that in the tags, then you have unlimited categories. Searching the gallery for "strobism" currently finds nothing, but for "strobe" there are many "strobism" type shots. You can narrow your art down to the finest degree using tags. They're there - it's up to you all to use them. Categories are actually old school but force a kind of order. Tags are much more flexible, and do work well with our search system. They just need to be used.

You are right Pete, but it relies on the poster to use the Tags - I know, I for one can be guilty of being lazy. If you are searching through the gallery for lets say "strobism" there are no results found, there are a healthy number in Strobist - but it doesn't pick up slight variations in the terms. I also can't seem to find lets say Strobist work that has recieved a EC/HC - more usefull if you are looking at quality work than votes decending - tho I cant search for that either.

On the other site previously mentioned for example in the Stobist group posters are encouraged to take a wide angle shot to show the lighting setup, what light modifications are used power settings etc, great at getting to grips with it. The variations uploads could be used more to encourage this. DaveU used this function on a recent EC to show how he arrived at the final montage, and very informative.

Last Modified By Nick_w at 18 Aug 2009 - 8:05 AM
roxpix
roxpix  102236 forum posts Scotland11 Constructive Critique Points
18 Aug 2009 - 8:29 AM

Really!
23 categories with up to three selectable per image arenít enough to categorise an image? Plus a free hand to set your own tags

Are we so keen to define our own work and distance it from others that may sully its genre that we need to blinker our gallery viewing to this extent?

Pete
Pete Site Moderator 1318433 forum postsPete vcard ePz Advertiser England96 Constructive Critique Points
18 Aug 2009 - 9:36 AM


Quote: but it relies on the poster to use the Tags - I know, I for one can be guilty of being lazy


Quote: in the Stobist group posters are encouraged to take a wide angle shot to show the lighting setup, what light modifications are used power settings etc

If you're saying our posters are too lazy to put "strobism" in a tag how are we supposed to encourage them to take and upload a second shot to show lighting set up?
Everything that's done there sounds like it could be done here, but in a slightly different way.

May I suggest someone starts a group. Then anyone who decides to join in uploads their shot with strobism as a tag, and after uploading the shot they could add a variation (selecting technique) showing the lighting set up. Bingo...the same result.

Last Modified By Pete at 18 Aug 2009 - 9:37 AM
andytvcams
andytvcams  1110396 forum posts United Kingdom
18 Aug 2009 - 10:07 AM


Quote: On the other site previously mentioned for example in the Stobist group posters are encouraged to take a wide angle shot to show the lighting setup, what light modifications are used power settings etc, great at getting to grips with it.

Horses for courses Nick.
I probably spend 60% of my internet time now on the strobist site and gallery's.

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