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Canon 1Ds mark lll 2 different memory cards !!!!!!!

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BevHadland
25 Jan 2008 - 4:41 PM

Can anybody see the reason why Canon have opted for 2 different memory cards 1 CF + 1 SD in the same camera? why not just CF cards! I have been trying to fathom the reasoning behind this and it beats me as to why. I'm upgrading my 5D next week to what I thought would be the Ds lll camera now I'm not so sure before I look at the Nikon D3 !!!!!!!! ok so Imight loose a few bob on lens regrouping but there is the 2.700 head start on price advantage agains't the Ds lll, I think Canon have been to complacent over the years and have been caught out by the Nikon D3 and its spec and pricing, already the price has dropped 600 thats big in 3weeks.

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Brom
Brom  9804 forum posts United Kingdom
25 Jan 2008 - 4:47 PM

and iso 25,600 oh its a tempting and cruel dream

mattw
mattw  105189 forum posts United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jan 2008 - 4:53 PM


Quote: Can anybody see the reason why Canon have opted for 2 different memory cards 1 CF + 1 SD in the same camera? why not just CF cards!

So you are covered if your client wants CF or SD cards? Is there much point in having two CF card slots?

Quote:
look at the Nikon D3 !!!!!!!! ok so Imight loose a few bob on lens regrouping but there is the 2.700 head start on price advantage agains't the Ds lll

The D3 does look very nice, but they are two different beasts. For landscape usage, is the D3 going to offer any real advantage over your present 5D? The 1DsIII will produce much larger files.

cambirder
cambirder  107202 forum posts England
25 Jan 2008 - 4:54 PM


Quote: 2.700 head start on price advantage agains't the Ds lll, I think Canon have been to complacent over the years and have been caught out by the Nikon D3 and its spec and pricing

Apart from a full frame sensor these are very different cameras, so you are not comparing like for like, the D3 is more comparable with the 1D Mk3, than the 1Ds.

As for why 2 different cards, I don't know, but it could be do to a lack of room for 2 CF cards.

cambirder
cambirder  107202 forum posts England
25 Jan 2008 - 4:58 PM


Quote: For landscape usage, is the D3 going to offer any real advantage over your present 5D? The 1DsIII will produce much larger files.

Good point, unless you need / want the increased resolution I don't see the need for any upgrade, from the 5D at all.

Edit - Might also be worthwhile to wait to see what enhancements Canon's D5 replacement is going to have.

Last Modified By cambirder at 25 Jan 2008 - 5:03 PM
mattw
mattw  105189 forum posts United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jan 2008 - 5:19 PM

The D3 will offer a weather sealed body, a 51 point AF system, faster frame rate and an extended high ISO range (over the 5D).

All good features, but with the possible exception of the first one, will they make any difference to a landscsape photographer?

Last Modified By mattw at 25 Jan 2008 - 5:21 PM
BevHadland
25 Jan 2008 - 5:22 PM

For 6000 They should have made room for the CF, and since when does an agency ask what type of card was used. I have never been ask that yet.

mattw
mattw  105189 forum posts United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jan 2008 - 5:26 PM

No, an agency will not care - but I have heard of people shooting for a commission handing the memory card over after the shoot. Just a thought.

MikeRC
MikeRC e2 Member 83464 forum postsMikeRC vcard United Kingdom
25 Jan 2008 - 5:28 PM


Quote: Can anybody see the reason why Canon have opted for 2 different memory cards 1 CF + 1 SD in the same camera?

I would think because the days of the CF card are numbered...they just don't know it yet.

....Mike

Brom
Brom  9804 forum posts United Kingdom
25 Jan 2008 - 5:37 PM

I think they might see out the life of the camera though...

cambirder
cambirder  107202 forum posts England
25 Jan 2008 - 5:42 PM


Quote: I would think because the days of the CF card are numbered.

They still keep bringing out bigger capacity ones.

Do you have a problem with different cards Bev? will you even be using the other one?

uggyy
uggyy  82104 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jan 2008 - 6:20 PM

I think the CF is far better than the SD, its stronger, its easier to hold and change over too. You ever tried to change a SD card outside when its blowing a gale Wink there just too small.

There is a really good article in another web site, not sure Im allowed to link to it though, on DPreview.

If I had the choice and was starting afresh between the 5d and the d3, I think Nikon would win out for me. The quality of the images from the sensor seem to be 1st class.

Tommy

MikeRC
MikeRC e2 Member 83464 forum postsMikeRC vcard United Kingdom
25 Jan 2008 - 7:32 PM


Quote: You ever tried to change a SD card outside when its blowing a gale there just too small.

God forbid you had to change a card in a gale, but if you must, turn your back to the wind and hold your camera inside your thick coat.
....be very careful with CF cards, it only needs one of those 100 pins to "miss" and you'le have more than a gale to worry about.

....Mike

BevHadland
25 Jan 2008 - 7:36 PM

I rather like the idea adopted by Nikon where the pair are linked to follow on and the second card can also be used as back up file, also to remember on the Ds lll a top raw file only gives you 36 images per Mb, not many shots unless you start using 8Mb cards which I think is to many to lose, I have had on the odd occasion lost a few images through a corrupt card fortunately only about 12% were lost.
Anybody that hands their card over to someone else must be a fool or hard up!!!!!
Quote: No, an agency will not care - but I have heard of people shooting for a commission handing the memory card over after the shoot. Just a thought.

uggyy
uggyy  82104 forum posts Scotland9 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jan 2008 - 7:38 PM

Hey Im from Scotland, we go out in gales in T-shirts and short bro. Wink

Ive never had problems with the pins but I know what you mean. I keep all my cards in a protective case, I think I lot of peeps get there problems with they get dirt blocking them and bend the pins or try and force the cards in the wrong way... I know of a brand new D300 that was 2hrs out the shop when the card was forced in the wrong way and bust the camera.

I just wish they would come out with a sensible sized card type that was strong and weather proof. It wouldn't be too hard to develop. Though getting market acceptance might be a problem... Wink

On another note, I remember was not one of the reasons for the two cards in the canons to store the camera settings so you could swap settings between cameras faster if you had two bodies? I suppose that could answer the 2nd slot being an SD, at the time smaller and more a back up?

All the Best, Tommy

Tommy

Last Modified By uggyy at 25 Jan 2008 - 7:41 PM

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