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Having seen the released specification for the EOS 50D, are we now approaching the point (assuming we are not there already) where our new Ferrari can now go at 157mph rather than 155mph.
And I am not saying that I will never want a 157mph Ferrari!
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I see what you are saying (I think) - is it really much of a step up from a 40D, which is a pretty decent camera to start with...
you'll have to ask the owners of one for some speculation on that!
Of course, you might say that it is not so much the extra speed over the last Ferrari, but rather how it compares to a Lotus or Lambo
Quote: And I am not saying that I will never want a 157mph Ferrari
It's been quite a while since Ferrari made a car which is as slow as 157mph .... but your point is well made.
Lens technology will ultimately slam the brakes on. A FF sensor with the same pixel density as the 50D could, theoretically, contain 38Mp. But could current lenses cope with that?
Warehouse Express is pretty quick to get off the block, have just received an email from them for pre-order!
Quote: Warehouse Express is pretty quick to get off the block, have just received an email from them for pre-order!
Are you tempted to hit the "pre-order" button?
It says 'The wait is finally over'. Was anybody waiting for it? Or even expecting it?
Quote: Was anybody waiting for it?
I am sure that there are some people who "need" the newest camera out........ Not me, as I have just bought a 40D.
What would you want them to say, Steve? lol
Quote: It says 'The wait is finally over'. Was anybody waiting for it? Or even expecting it?
Does that mean my cash back has finaly arrived
Personaly that is what I have been waiting for regarding Canon.
Very interesting release especially if there is a one stop improvement in noise yet almost doubling of image size from the 20D / 30D. Also like the sRAW feature - i.e. full size RAW for wedding formals and portraiture, sRAW for the candids. Will be interesting to see Canon's response to Nikon's 700D.
The interesting bit is Canon are claiming to have made another step forward in micro lens design, such that they have no gaps between pixels. The last time the did this sort of change was the jump from 10D to 20D, and it was a decent jump in performance.
But just think, if they had stuck at 10mp how much better would its high ISO performance be? From the release stuff it would look that digic 4 brings the processing speed to get a bigger JPEG buffer, or do video type processing for AF, and fit more pixels in.
Also it would look like thet have fitted some of the DPP lens correction and noise reduction technology into the Jpeg engine.
So apart from the MP increase, on paper it sounds like a worthy camera and a decent upgrade. My concern on the number of pixels is not just the issue of noise/dynamic range, but at what point do the lenses become the limitation. Will most users be able to afford lenses that can show its resolution? For the average 40D/50D buyer woul it have been better to increase ISO range (to allow use of opticaly slower lenses)??
Quote: yet almost doubling of image size from the 20D / 30D
Doubling the number of pixels yes, doubling the image size no.
Quote: For the average 40D/50D buyer woul it have been better to increase ISO range (to allow use of opticaly slower lenses)??
Native ISO is 3200 now and expandable to 12800, that's a 2 stop jump over the 30D.
My mistake I meant doubling of pixels. Personally I look forward to some real world image tests especially at ISO6400 and ISO16800. As for lens resolving power - no problem if the purchaser owns excellent glass.
One big downside of the 30D was it's LCD as anything taken with a wide angle didn't look in focus. Wonder if the grips are also compatible i.e. 30D grip fits the 50D and whether the direct print button can be mapped to a function.
Look forward to first look reviews as I would say this is Canon's competitor to the D300. Also this release could herald something special in terms of a 5D replacement and expect to see this at Photokina.
Quote: I would say this is Canon's competitor to the D300
Several recent threads on epz have suggested that the 40D is Canon's equivalent to the D300 when they are not even at the same price point. Nikon raised their game with the replacement of the D200 which had a poor high ISO performance compared to it's successor. They also improved the focusing system. We have a lot to thank Nikon and Sony for in terms of improving the performance and features of DSLR cameras including the relative price point. I wait with interest to see if the 5D replacement is announced soon and looking at the gap in Canon's line up and the excellence of the D700 I anticipate this will happen pre Christmas if not sooner. A great time for photographers
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