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Canon 5D 2 help requested please.

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    johnp
    johnp  9135 forum posts United Kingdom
    16 Apr 2011 - 9:17 PM

    Help needed please! I'm in a different country from the instruction book. I seem to have pressed a button I shouldn't have and can't fix it.
    The lowest ISO I can select is 200. To the left of the selected ISO on the top plate display it says ISO D+
    Can anyone suggest how I get back to lower ISO please?
    Many thanks
    John

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    Coleslaw
    Coleslaw e2 Member 813402 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
    16 Apr 2011 - 9:24 PM

    did you have the highlight tone priority on? If so, turn it off.

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    Kris_Dutson
    16 Apr 2011 - 9:34 PM

    Not a bad thing anyway as Canon optimise their sensors to give the least noise at iso 200 as do the other manufacturers.....

    ...so I'm told.

    Last Modified By Kris_Dutson at 16 Apr 2011 - 9:35 PM
    johnp
    johnp  9135 forum posts United Kingdom
    16 Apr 2011 - 9:35 PM

    Bless you, Coleslaw! Camera now operating as desired
    John

    Coleslaw
    Coleslaw e2 Member 813402 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
    16 Apr 2011 - 9:37 PM

    Not sure, Kris.
    I read that Highlight tone priority causes noise in the shadow area, though I have no idea if that is true or not.

    Kris_Dutson
    16 Apr 2011 - 9:46 PM

    Me neither Cole, I was just refering to general use with none of the myriad enhancements switched on. Smile

    DuncanDisorderly

    Nikon has a base ISO of 200 - Canon is 100.

    The detailed reviews show that on the 5DII, ISO 100 has better signal to noise ratio than ISO 200.
    On the other hand, there is very little difference in the available dynamic range and occasionally someone advocates using ISO 200 instead of ISO 100; but that's a different story.

    DuncanDisorderly

    It would be interesting to know why; but your guess is not backed up by the DxO results (see link in my previous post)

    newfocus
    newfocus  7644 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
    17 Apr 2011 - 10:25 PM

    Chris, from what I remember, highlight tone priority effectively underexposes one stop by reducing the ISO then scales up the result. That would explain why it prevents ISO 100 being selected.

    On a general note on noise vs ISO, I did some testing on long exposure (15 min plus) night shots a year or so back with the 5DII and decided that on a practical level, ISO 200 was optimal (no noticeable increase in noise over ISO 100 and allowed me to select more useful apertures around f/8 for those shots). In good light, I still shoot ISO 100 becaue more controlled tests than I was doing have shown it does have a slight noise advantage.

    strawman
    strawman  1021991 forum posts United Kingdom16 Constructive Critique Points
    17 Apr 2011 - 11:16 PM

    to my understanding the camera underexposes the image and then applies a new tone curve to the resulting capture that adds a full stop of compensation to the shadow areas but the compensation reduces as the captured data rises so to simplify you can think of it as removing up to a stop from the highlights, but mid-tones and shadows are as exposed.

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