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    Triton
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    14 Aug 2011 - 4:42 PM
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    Lately I have been shooting with a Canon 5D Mk II in raw format, but my CS2 can't open the files, even after I updated from within PS to camera raw 4.6 using the Help>Updates... menu function.

    So now I have a lot of raw files sitting in my external hard drive which I am not able to access. What do I do?

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    franken
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    14 Aug 2011 - 4:46 PM
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    Have a look at an earlier thread of today.


    http://www.ephotozine.com/forums/topic/cs2-and-raw-91787


    Ken

    Last Modified By franken at 14 Aug 2011 - 4:47 PM
    Triton
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    14 Aug 2011 - 4:53 PM
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    Quote: Have a look at an earlier thread of today.


    http://www.ephotozine.com/forums/topic/cs2-and-raw-91787


    Ken

    Do I have to convert my files using the DNG converter??

    Miles Herbert
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    14 Aug 2011 - 4:56 PM
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    Try having a look at FastStone Image Viewer as a simple (and free way) to view and open Raw files ... Also has limited tools to play with.

    FastStoneone Image Viewer Here

    whipspeed
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    14 Aug 2011 - 5:17 PM
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    Open them with the Canon DPP software, convert the files to TIFF & open in CS2.

    Chris_L
    14 Aug 2011 - 5:25 PM
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    Process the raw images with Canon DPP and if they need further work Transfer to Photoshop

    dpp.jpg

    Simple adjustments to raw images in DPP:




    Last Modified By Chris_L at 14 Aug 2011 - 5:28 PM
    tomcat
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    14 Aug 2011 - 8:29 PM
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    Welcome to the biggest con in digital photographySad

    mattw
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    14 Aug 2011 - 10:49 PM
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    ... Or download a trial version of C1 and see how you go.

    mlewis
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    Quote: Welcome to the biggest con in digital photographySad

    No one is forcing people to use Adobe software with their well known ACR update procedure.

    The options are:
    Convert the RAW files to DNG with Adobe's free DNG converter and use with PS CS2,
    Convert the RAW files with Canon DPP which came free with the camera and do any further processing in PS CS2,
    Upgrade PS CS2 to CS5 and benefit from the much improved RAW processing in the latest ACR and other PS improvements,
    Buy Photoshop Elements and use the latest ACR for RAW processing,
    Buy Lightroom for RAW processing and use PS CS2 for any other tweaks,
    Buy/find free other RAW processing software and use PS CS2 for further tweaks.

    These options range from reasonably expensive to free and one even requires obtaining no other software.

    Chris_L
    15 Aug 2011 - 1:12 PM
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    Quote: No one is forcing people to use Adobe software with their well known ACR update procedure

    Is it well-known? I don't think it is, certainly not in the wider world and even on sites like this people get new cameras and post in the forum for help when the software doesn't recognise the files. I doubt the sales people in the Apple Store or PC World don't point out is that if you upgrade your camera body the software you're about to spend hundreds of pounds on will stop recognising the files and you will have to convert them all first.

    The most annoying thing is that ACR is a plug-in and that makes it very easy for it to be updated without updating the host software which means Adobe are deliberately crippling earlier versions of Photoshop by locking them out of working with the updated plug-in

    Carabosse
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    15 Aug 2011 - 1:31 PM
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    Quote: but my CS2 can't open the files

    CS2 is a bit "last year", isn't it? Wink

    Of course Adobe want you to buy later versions - it's how they stay in business.

    Dave_Canon
    15 Aug 2011 - 2:33 PM
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    Quote: No one is forcing people to use Adobe software with their well known ACR update procedure

    Is it well-known? I don't think it is, certainly not in the wider world and even on sites like this people get new cameras and post in the forum for help when the software doesn't recognise the files. I doubt the sales people in the Apple Store or PC World don't point out is that if you upgrade your camera body the software you're about to spend hundreds of pounds on will stop recognising the files and you will have to convert them all first.

    The most annoying thing is that ACR is a plug-in and that makes it very easy for it to be updated without updating the host software which means Adobe are deliberately crippling earlier versions of Photoshop by locking them out of working with the updated plug-in

    If you take the trouble to review the market and decide on upgrading your camera then surely common sense would tell you to consider whether your computer and software can cope with the upgrade. For some reason many people seem happy to pay for physical items they can touch like a camera but reluctant to pay for software which also takes mant hours of skilled work to produce. I would not dream of upgrading my camera too often anyway so once every 5 years or so I will expect top upgrade softare and camera. Of course, for those who really cannot afford these upgrades, Adobe do provide the DNG converter free so there is no reason for anyone to complain.

    Your final statement is completely untrue as you are assuming that the host software interfaces with the plug-ins in an identical way whereas with major upgrades to PS; this is clearly not true. If it was true why could you not use the latest Plug-ins with CS2? To achieve what you want, Adobe would not only have to produce upgrades for the current version free for each new camera but also a version for each previous obsolete version. Who would pay for this or do you expect the Adobe software guys to do this for free?

    I do not have any connection with Adobe (other than spending money buying their software) but I have developed software so know just how expensive it is to produce.

    Dave

    strawman
    15 Aug 2011 - 2:42 PM
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    If Adobe wrote their interface standard correctly then there is no reason to suggest its RAW plug-in could not work across multiple standards of the software. But it is not in Adobe's interests to do so.

    Sabreur
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    15 Aug 2011 - 4:18 PM
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    Perhaps we should ask why camera manufacturers change their raw file format with every new camera?

    Anyway, Adobe produce a free tool which adds just one step to a user's workflow, but allows the user to keep using software produced many years before their camera.

    strawman
    15 Aug 2011 - 5:04 PM
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    Quote: Perhaps we should ask why camera manufacturers change their raw file format with every new camera?

    That is easier to understand as they are regularly altering the sensor pattern and data and items such as bit depth. While the 16 Bit TIFF standard has been constant for some time, so the input to the process (the RAW file) has reasons to change while the output standard has not changed.

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