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Thought I would just start a thread where owners can post hints & tips for others as we all get used to the features & functions on our new cameras.
I know this camera is not a first generation or anything like that but it does still have some new gadgets on it.
We could also use this thread to pass on details of how the camera performs with items from your current kit.
i.e I know already that I get a better/faster cycle time with my 420ex gun compared to using it with the EOS 3 (I can get an extra 2fps from the gun before it has to charge) Of course the 5fps to 7fps performance of the drive is mostly responsible for this, but it did'nt actually cross my mind untill I used the 20D & 420EX together that there may be an advantage in having a slower drive!
Over to the rest of you
Alan
Hint 2;
before taking out of the box you must send your new camera system to the following address and I will take care of it on your behalf............................... LOL
I have discovered that the no. of shots you can get on a CF card varies with the ISO setting. For a 1Gb card, at ISO 100 (large JPEG) it's 266, at ISO 200, it's 257, ISO 400 it's 241. I was amazed.
I thought it was me being silly, but no, a read of the manual mentioned it and a bit of experimentation found out the rest.
Jo
I was surprised at that too Jo. I wonder why that is. I would have the thought the information in the file would have been the same regardless of the ISO setting.
Talking of ISO settings, I am really amazed at the quality when using ISO 400 and 800 (even 1600 or 3200 aren't bad). Coming from a film camera this is the feature I find myself using the most often. Problem is, I forget what ISO setting I've left the camera on.
Rod
Rod see this download it and use it on the high ISO images I've been amazed at the results.
I have been using it on slides I have scanned but will work great with your 20d files!
I'm very close to ordering a 20D myself coming from a Eos 30 been waiting for the right camera to come out and I think the 20d is it, what do you think to it?
Chris.
"I would have the thought the information in the file would have been the same regardless of the ISO setting."
Are you talking about RAW or Jpeg images here? I can't comment on RAW as I've never used it. However, JPEG files are compressed versions of the original. Noisy images do not compress so well as clean ones. So although you don't get much more noise at the higher ISO settings, it's probably enough to increase the file size. Sometimes I run an image through NeatImage just to reduce the file size, making it easier to compress to 60k for an upload.
Anyway, that's my theory. I might be wrong.
Tony
I was taking about Large JPEG in terms of quality setting. I've just started exploring the mysteries of RAW. It was just unexpected. I'll be working mostly at low ISO, but being able to change the ISO is very useful indeed. I was testing the noise at high iso inside a church last week and it's better than fast film would be.
It's an impressive camera. It has surprised my with its performance.
Jo
The important thing to remember is that these are all approximations - at all ISOs. Your type of subject etc will make at least as much difference as the 'noise'.
An example is mass vegetation - hedges, grass etc. You will often find that your images containing such vegetation are larger than those where there are areas of smooth or graduated tone.
I personally think Canon are being a little silly here - giving an impression of precision where none exists!
Thanks for the link Chris. I'll certainly give Noiseware a try.
I haven't really used the 20D properly yet but initial results are very promising. The difference between my slides, taken with an EOS30, scanned with a Minolta Dualscan III and the 20D are really amazing. The digital files are much cleaner than my scanned images.
I think this makes a great upgrade from the EOS30. The weight is similar (20D a little heavier) and it's very easy getting used to the layout of the digital camera.
As far as the larger files are concerned with higher ISO settings - I was referring to Jpeg files - haven't even tried the RAW setting as yet. Hard to believe they could be bettered.
Rod
Hi All
I've just had some interesting experiences with flash (550ex) and the EOS 20D. This ETTL II malarky works differently from ETTL and it doesn't like me using the micro Apollo on the front of the flashgun. Direct flash and bounce flash are fine, but with the Micro Apollo, it needs more leeway to add extra exposure time or a higher ISO, ISO 200 worked fine.
An interesting finding, but relevant to anyone who's planning to use this combo for weddings etc. Will be doing more experimentation with this in the coming weeks. But suggests that settings won't necessarily transfer from the film system to the digital without testing and modification if necessary.
Jo
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