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    bayesp
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    5 Jan 2004 - 9:39 AM
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    I have recently bought a Canon i965 printer to go with my Fuji S2 pro. Can any one tell me the best output settings to use in Photoshop. I have wasted a lot of paper and ink and so far have gone back to using SRGB as an output profile as it seems to be the best. The supplied Canon profiles are very bad even though i am using Canon paper (tried Kodak with very poor results).
    My prints are pretty good with these settings but lacking in saturation.
    Also, if you've tried other papers with an i965, please let me know your findings.

    Thanks

    Paul

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    5 Jan 2004 - 9:39 AM

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    Hi Paul,

    First thing, is your monitor properly calibrated? Without doing this, you're shooting in the dark as it were.

    Unless you are using custom profiles (ie. ones you have made, or third party made ones), then you should let the canned profiles handle things.

    In Photoshop, go Photoshop -> Color Options. In the Conversion Options section, select Adobe (ACE) as the Engine and Relative Colorimetric as the Intent. (If you have gamut problems with an individual picture change this to Perceptual, but R.C. is the first choice).

    Next, go File -> Print with Preview. In the dialog box, make sure the Color Management Source Space is selected and that it matches your image file (sRGB in your case). In Print Space, select Printer Color Management/Postscript Color Management (whichever is applicable to you). Click Print. In the Printer dialog box, select Color Options and select BJ Standard (or whatever yours says). This ensures that the printer driver will run the show.

    If you are using a custom profile, then in the PS Print with Preview dialog, select that profile as the Print Space, and in the Printer dialog Color Options, select "None" or "No Color Management". This lets the profile handle things. Selecting a custom profile, and then BJ standard means you would be doing colour management twice. I have a Canon S800 currently and use Ilford papers (the canned profiles for which are very good, give them a try if you like). The information above is derived from a video tutorial by Michael Reichmann of Luminous Landscape and should suit any printer. I have tried, like Michael, to be as generic as possible, so its possible that some terminology may differ for you, but the principles are the same.

    jonjeds
    5 Jan 2004 - 3:02 PM
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    Hi Paul. Agree with what Tim says above. Your monitor must be calibrated or the print will never look anything like what is does on the screen.

    I have an i965 and have been getting fantastic results with virtually no effort. When I show the prints to people they just do not believe they are not traditional prints.

    I did try several types of paper when I first set it up and found that Kodak gave the worst results by a long way; washed out pale, limp, flat etc.

    The best results so far have been with Ilford Galerie Classic Gloss. I haven't tried pearl or matt yet but bought a pack of pearl today so will be giving it a go later.

    I have been selecting 'glossy photo paper' on 'high' quality with 'auto' colour adjustment and the prints are stunning. I tried selecting different papers but couldn't see any difference.

    Hope this helps.
    John

    bayesp
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    5 Jan 2004 - 3:46 PM
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    Thankyou both for your help.
    I have some Ilford Galerie Classic Gloss and agree that the quality is amazing. The Canon Photo Glossy paper is also faultless.
    I know i need to calibrate my monitor but i cant justify the expense of buying the equipment at present. Is it possible to hire it?
    I don't get on at all with the Adobe gamma or similar software, it must be my eyes. Everything allways ends up really dark on screen.

    Thanks again

    Paul

    I know i need to calibrate my monitor but i cant justify the expense of buying the equipment at present. Is it possible to hire it?

    That I don't know. However, there are companies that will do the job for you. Try a web search if you like, and in the meantime I'll see if I can find (or re-find) one I have somewhere.

    The price of the ColorVision Spyder has come down greatly since I bought mine just a few months ago (isn't that always the way!). From Colour Confidence the spyder with the basic PhotoCAL software is now down to 99 and with OptiCAL 65 more. When I bought mine (with OptiCAL) it set me back a fair bit over 200. It is worth the expense though, dear as it might sound.

    Found it!

    SCS Imaging. I bookmarked this for reference after a recommendation by someone at the Nikon Owner's Club who had some work done by them.

    bayesp
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    6 Jan 2004 - 9:04 AM
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    Thanks Tim. Much apreciated.

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