Capture One v4 beta version is now out

mattw (e2 Member)

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31 Aug 2007 - 1:16 PM

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Quote: I want Keywords, ooh sorry it don't do it. I want a slideshow, ooh sorry it don't do it. I want a web gallery, ooh sorry it don't do it. I want...... need I go on?? I get what you mean tho Sorry

I'll give you keywarding - I can that could be usefull in a Raw convertor, however I not interesting in running a web gallery or slideshow from the Raw convertor.

randomrubble

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31 Aug 2007 - 1:23 PM

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Quote: "it's not Lightroom"

That's a plus for me. I'm glad that Phase One have not gone down the 'kitchen sink' route of trying to do everything.

There's definitely a place for a nimble, focussed, RAW converter that doesn't do a great deal else and allows users to create thier own workflow. A real plus as far as i'm concerned. As a Photoshop user, with a liking for managing my own files, I'd use only about 10% of what Lightroom/Aperture provide.

I find that C1 is the most suitable app for my way of working with files. I've tried most of the key competitors, except Aperture. The only one that gave appreciably better results with my work was DxO for certain images. The price of DxO elite and it's UI put me off buying it as a supplemental tool.

Got to admit that I am starting to make use of Canon's DPP now. Through necessity at first, but sometimes by choice now. For those who haven't used it for a while, it's improved quite a lot over the past couple of years.

mattw (e2 Member)

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31 Aug 2007 - 1:38 PM

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Quote: Granted, but lets not forget that an awful lot of photographers don't even use PS etc.

Really? I mean, my old 300D came with a copy PS elements - is it not the same with the current models?

Elements is a lot cheeper that Lightroom, and even includes it's own RAW convertor. If fact Elements + C1 LE is cheeper than lightroom.

Lightroom is not designed to replace PS either.

agoreira

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31 Aug 2007 - 1:58 PM

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Quote: If the photo is taken correctly it don't need Photoshopping/Elementsing

Ah! There speaks an expert obviously! Us lesser mortals who fail to get it perfect every time, have to resort to these programmes. I doubt very few serious togs don't use PS or similar.

strawman (e2 Member)

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31 Aug 2007 - 2:01 PM

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Ah Simon, there is no option for us but to bow and say we are not worthy. Not met a photographer in the real world who uses RAW and not paintshop/photoshop etc.

NikH

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31 Aug 2007 - 2:18 PM

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Good god guys, I only started this thread as a quick notification / bit of news - not to start WW3.

Mind you, at least we're not arguing about Canon vs Nikon or Digital vs Film





obviously Canon and Digital though

NikH

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31 Aug 2007 - 2:34 PM

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Quite

Mind you, it did take 4 pages until the first mention of personal attacks, which I figured was a bit slow by normal standards

mattw (e2 Member)

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31 Aug 2007 - 3:04 PM

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Quote: If the photo is taken correctly it don't need Photoshopping/Elementsing

I a great deal of satisfaction from an image that I can get right just in C1 - however my skills are limited, and these are few and far between.

Ultimately though, why limit tools at your disposal? Neither C1 nor Lightroom is designed to replace PS.

From your post I thought you were suggesting that photographers did not use PS (or similar) because of budgetary constraints. If this was not your meaning, I humbly apologise - however we will have to agree to disagree.