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Cash Machine Fraud


kokobrown e2
10 1.9k Scotland
30 Oct 2009 4:15PM
Hey guys,

Not sure if this has been posted already but just thought Id share with you!

I was in Watford high street 2 days ago and went to put my card into the barclays cash machine.. it just didnt feel right, there was a guy standing at the next machine not actually doing anything, so I went to put my card in but the grabber didnt feel right so I whipped my card straight back out before it could take it right in..the guy next to me was watching me.. very suss...so i moved on to another cash machine!!!

Just had a note through the door from the neighbour hood watch warning about it..its here as well..!!!! cash machine fraud

This isnt a viral email - it actually really did happen to me, well nearly if I hadnt been so on the ball!!!

Bloody scamming bastards!!

K xxx

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Overread e2
6 3.9k 18 England
30 Oct 2009 5:50PM
I guess the best advice is if the machine eats your card don't leave the ATM - even if its during normal opening hours. Of course its a big problem if its later in the day or at weekends when the banks are shut and you can't hang about for ages.
kokobrown e2
10 1.9k Scotland
30 Oct 2009 5:59PM
Absoloutley, my issue would have been I didnt have my mobile phone with me at the time so if it had got my card then I would have had to have hung around the machine and tried to alert someone within the bank or asked a kind stranger walking by if I could borrow their phone!
whipspeed e2
10 4.1k 22 United Kingdom
30 Oct 2009 6:57PM
Always look at the card slot. I went to get some cash out the other week from our local Morrisons and there was a copper strip in the reader just where the magnetic strip on the card was. I didn't put the card in & called the security guard who said it was ok, I informed him otherwise and told him to look at the other machines as they were ok. He called the manager & they got the police in to check it.
mark_delta e2
7 1.3k
30 Oct 2009 7:07PM
most are a full panel that covers the whole front of the terminal
example here
link
looking for something on the slot is out of date, give the full panel a tug !
whipspeed e2
10 4.1k 22 United Kingdom
30 Oct 2009 7:12PM
I do that as well, passers by think you're completely nuts, but better safe than sorry. Interesting to see the link has morrisons stuff on as well.
f8 e2
11 9.2k 22 England
30 Oct 2009 10:41PM
I always use the ATM inside the bank,its safer.
BEVZED e2
8 1.1k United Kingdom
30 Oct 2009 11:33PM
I used to use the ones inside the bank ... then they were gone .... took 4 away and put one outside and you need to be a midget to use it!
f8 e2
11 9.2k 22 England
31 Oct 2009 2:13PM
Change your bank!!
User_Removed 5 1.4k England
31 Oct 2009 2:52PM
Your all screwed when the wireless payment cards come about.

Can just read all your details from 100m away.

Standards agencies have been having a big headache with RFID cards etc. for a long time now...

And mark delta, that photo is old school! - I would be much more worried about checking your internet connected PC for viruses and spy ware: Believe it or not, the information to do with WHAT you do with your money is more safely valuable than the actual money itself...

Smile
Paintman e2
8 903 174 United Kingdom
31 Oct 2009 3:33PM
Looks like I'll have to start carrying my cards around in a lead-lined box once they go wirelessSmile And maybe wear a tin foil hat, just to be on the safe side!
8Mfps
6 80 United Kingdom
31 Oct 2009 4:26PM
And don't forget the lead lined jock strap!
User_Removed 5 1.4k England
31 Oct 2009 5:41PM
You just have to look at the disaster that happened with oyster cards.

The system was immediately cloned and people were putting 500 credit onto their cards for free.

The company redesigned and added a layer of authentication onto the transaction processes. (for a very costly fee I would imagine).

You could still create a 500 card for free; however it would no longer work as the credit did not come from an authenticated source... To get around the new "secure" system all you had to do was pop down to one of the ticket terminals and add say a fiver to your 500 card.

Behold, you then had an official authenticated 505 card Smile.

...This carried on for months until they finally got the message and secured the system properly. - and this still didn't cover physical security. I see credit transaction boxes open and unlocked all the time at my train station.
tomcat e2
9 6.2k 15 United Kingdom
31 Oct 2009 5:55PM

Quote:I guess the best advice is if the machine eats your card don't leave the ATM - even if its during normal opening hours. Of course its a big problem if its later in the day or at weekends when the banks are shut and you can't hang about for ages


Happened to me sometime ago at one of the machines at my local Tescos
I stood with my back to the machine for approx 45 minutes,so no one else could use it,while trying,eventually with success to contact my bank.
They even gave me a one off code I could punch into another machine to access some cash(50 I believe).
As far as I recall this was on a Sunday.New card arrived on the Tuesday morning.

Adrian

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