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Change from DSLR to M 4/3 rds


Paul Morgan 14 16.7k 6 England
31 Mar 2014 1:20AM

Quote:Thanks coast Smile Good time for the Manchester 52. Pedal to Paris, something like that could be in the plan for next year.

On cameras I think you are correct in how I should view the EM10.



For me I find it gives the best of both, good in place of a compact provided it is fairly small, and good as a replacement for a DSLR.

What ever we use there will always be some compromise somewhere, all that really matters is that we use something that is right for our own needs.

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ChrisV 8 1.0k 26 United Kingdom
31 Mar 2014 12:39PM

Quote:What ever we use there will always be some compromise somewhere, all that really matters is that we use something that is right for our own needs.


Spot on - I haven't completely abandoned my FF 5DII (but don't use it all that often). I have sold off all my Canon APSc gear and EFs lenses and bought heavily into m4/3, as their balance of IQ/portability hits a sweet spot for me.

I've recently bought the impossibly small GM1 as my carry-everywhere camera. Further compromises there of course in terms of ergonomics and no scope for a VF [unless you jerry-rig something for fixed FL I suppose] or external flash/control. But it really is only the size of a compact [and I like the fact that that's how it would probably be perceived - useful in some situations], whereas the IQ is a rival to much larger cameras even in low-light. Add to that I can fit most of my other lenses to it and it's a very useful addition to my panoply.
Paul Morgan 14 16.7k 6 England
31 Mar 2014 5:58PM
I`m actually very tempted by yet another GF2 Smile the body only is less than 100, once hacked the video comes very close in quality to the Canon 5D11 and just a little behind that of the GH2, it will not be used for stills.
steve_p 9 1.1k England
4 Jun 2014 2:51PM
I started this topic a year ago, I was interested to get people's views. I bought a Lumix G6 to replace my Canon 60D- because it was a bit heavy and bulky.
After a year of use, the G6 turns in good results, I used it at my stepdaughter's wedding- most pictures were excellent. No complaints there then.
But I feel there is something "missing"- I didn't quite know what.
I found out because I was killing a bit of time in my local Currys!! I picked up a Canon 700D and I found it felt "at home" in my hands. I know its a lower end spec model but its not as big or heavy as the 60D was. The 18-55 STM kit lens gets pretty good reviews.
I feel as though I might be tempted back to the DSLR!!
4 Jun 2014 3:04PM
I know what you mean by a camera feeling at home in your hands. I have a G6 and have tried out a couple of other M43 in shops and always feel they are a bit small having come from a D7000. That's why I am saving my pennies to get a GH4. I love the weight of the lenses and the EVF of M43, but don't really find a very small format suits my hands.
I go along with the Olympus guys. I bought a second hand PEN-1 a couple of years back to try out the system - I have not used my DSLRs since.

I am now awaiting delivery of a new E-LP5 from Amazon - see the epz review.
Six weeks on and I am well pleased with my Pen E-PL5. It overcomes the failings I had experienced with the Pen-1 i.e. somewhat slow on focus and trigger response.

Neither camera has let me down, however, in terms of picture excellence.

My one criticism is that the menu logistics seem even more incomprehensible!

I bow down to CB in admitting, at last, that the video capability is a great and worthwhile feature, having now been enticed into shooting some 'footage' Grin
Paul Morgan 14 16.7k 6 England
28 Jul 2014 11:53PM
These EPL5`s are selling at good prices now.
22 Apr 2015 4:03PM

Quote:After 10 yrs of using DSLRs my Canon 60D hardly sees any use, due to its bulk.
I am thinking of going with the Panasonic G 5.
Has anyone got one of these or any other recommendations?
The Olympus OMD 5 doesn't appeal due to its price or appearance.



Hi Steve,

I'm coming into this conversation on April 22, 2015 and have the same question as you at this point. Semi retired and just shooting for myself and some odd jobs at this point.never touch the nikons anymore , I use my phone now, that has to stop. I am looking at the Panasonic GX8 soon to hit the market end of August. I am curious as to which way you went and if you went 4/3rds. And how is the size in your hands, too small? I'm concerned about that. Living in a normally regularvacation , islands type area and pro shops are quite a drive to physically hold one. Female, but my hands aren't super small. A good solid grip is really important when while getting the crazy shots hiking etc...not all the four thirds come with a nice grip or have them available as an add on. Curious about your choice and which way you decided to go. Hope you are still on here, looking forward to your response. Thanks, Laurie. And any input from anyone on here would be welcome. I wanted to add, Leica was my first choice but money is stopping me. Even the new low end is too pricy for what it offers.
ChrisV 8 1.0k 26 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2015 5:08PM
I hadn't heard about a GX8. I have a GX7 amongst a host of other bodies and it's a nice compromise between the ergonomics [and bulk] of the GH cameras and the smaller but control-lite GFs and so on. They're also quote similar in style to some of the Leicas and indeed some Leicas are just rebadged Pannys.

The only gripe I have about the GX7 is fairly short battery life - but it's easy enough to carry a couple of spares on you if you're going to shoot a full day.
Chris_L Plus
1 1.9k United Kingdom
22 Apr 2015 6:08PM
The GX7 is great (I came to it after using a 1DMK II and 5D MK II) so it feels small to me but I think it is small compared to many. Handling could be better but only at the cost of more size and weight. This is one of those things where I think you really do need to try before you buy.

I agree with Chris about the battery life, wish it was longer, you have to buy a spare if you plan on a full day's shooting.

If you like something that looks stylish the GX7 is the best looking camera I've ever owned. I often keep it on a shelf as it's as attractive as any ornament.

Be interesting to see what the GX8 brings to the table. I hadn't even heard of it til I read your message.
cfreeman 11 127 United Kingdom
22 Apr 2015 7:57PM
I think some people will never accept micro four thirds being as good as the Canons and Nikons but I'm ok with that. You use what you feel comfortable with and what works/does the job for you. If you have tried it but didn't like it then fair enough but don't knock it if you haven't tried it.

At the end of the day use what you enjoy using otherwise it becomes a chore and in the end you don't use it. For me I like to travel light so these cameras suit me perfectly and I love using them.

I have had 6 Panasonic cameras and still own 4 but only use 2 regularly. I have done the SLR thing but find I enjoy the range finder style more. My every day carry around is the LX100 - the same camera is badged as a Leica dlux 109, so a quality product. An amazing compact and takes the same battery as my other regular camera a GX7.

Both the LX100 and GX7 have dropped in price recently I would recommend both but I love that LX100 with its 4K video, external dials and multi aspect ratios.
steve_p 9 1.1k England
22 Apr 2015 8:25PM
I went with the G6 initially, I kept it for a couple of years.
Plus points - Image quality is first class especially the 14-140 lens. Light to handle.
Minus points- Not so good at higher ISO. Personally- handling was too fiddly.

I now have a Canon 700D which suits my needs perfectly except that the new 760D would be even better being a small 70D with the slightly better rear controls
franken Plus
12 3.5k 4 Wales
22 Apr 2015 10:17PM
Being arthritic I found carrying around a DSLR and a few lenses a bit tiring after awhile.

The weight of the lenses were the biggest problem for me.

A couple of years ago i tried an Olympus micro 4/3rds camera and have never looked back.

I now get by with an Olympus E-PL5 and a Panasonic G5.

Images quality is excellent from the both of them and I have no regrets re selling off all of my DSLR gear.

Ken
23 Apr 2015 8:06AM

Quote:I started this topic a year ago, I was interested to get people's views. I bought a Lumix G6 to replace my Canon 60D- because it was a bit heavy and bulky.
After a year of use, the G6 turns in good results, I used it at my stepdaughter's wedding- most pictures were excellent. No complaints there then.
But I feel there is something "missing"- I didn't quite know what.
I found out because I was killing a bit of time in my local Currys!! I picked up a Canon 700D and I found it felt "at home" in my hands. I know its a lower end spec model but its not as big or heavy as the 60D was. The 18-55 STM kit lens gets pretty good reviews.
I feel as though I might be tempted back to the DSLR!!


And you won't be alone. After getting some very satisfying images from Olympus m4/3 (while still keeping my Canon) I decided to compare. Olympus beats Canon in out-of camera JPGs hands down. Images as crisp as that are hard to come by with an entry level DSLR but are a commonplace with m4/3. Sheer delight... But try to get that extra detail from shadows or dampen the lights - and the wiggle space shrinks considerasbly as compared to ol' good DSLR. So, for now, I keep m4/3 as a travel cam and compact replacement (as suggested by myself at the start of this long thread) and bought all-new Nikon D5500. Some other guys being all-mft proponents at the beginning of this thread are sporting all new DSLRs now.
But, with all of that - if m4/3 really satisfies you as your instrument is it worth paying for camera feel alone? That's completely up you.

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