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gary_d
gary_d e2 Member 6519 forum postsgary_d vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 11:39 AM

I received a PM from a gentleman yesterday pointing out the reasons why my wildlife and bird images are not up to his standard, he set out a list of things I should do to improve.

Whilst I totally agree with the fact that his work is far superior to mine and that the message was sent with my best interests in mind I feel I must draw up my reasons as why in my case it is not possible.

All but a very few of my images are taken while out with my dog Patch, most of you know him very well, the reason I go out is for his and my exercise and the photography comes a close second.

I do not have the luxury of carrying a tripod or sitting in a purpose build hide with perfect backgrounds but rely on spotting a subject in the wild and sometimes I get lucky and get close enough to get a shot, thatís if Patch as not already ran in front and scared it away.

I feel I have to write this because not all images should be judged against each other but circumstances should be taken in to consideration.

I except that my level of ability and circumstances means I will never be the best but still enjoy photography and that should be what it is about surely.

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KNS
KNS  5106 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 11:45 AM

The best judge of your imaging is you - who cares what anyone else thinks.....

Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 11:53 AM

Unfortunately, when we look at photos, we have no idea what the situations were. So, there is no way to judge the quality based on that. What we can do is to compared to those we have seen before. Even though you might not have the perfect conditions, but those points are still good to bear in mind.

Of course, if you are happy with them and enjoy what you do, then that's fine.

Saying that, I have no idea why you think you should tell everyone, other than the kind person who tried to help you.

Last Modified By Coleslaw at 18 Nov 2012 - 11:53 AM
gary_d
gary_d e2 Member 6519 forum postsgary_d vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 12:01 PM


Quote: Saying that, I have no idea why you think you should tell everyone, other than the kind person who tried to help you.

If that is true Cole then the forum posts will become a lot less.


I already wrote that I appreciate the fact his message was meant to be helpful, and I did not mention his name either.

lemmy
lemmy  71769 forum posts United Kingdom
18 Nov 2012 - 12:07 PM


Quote: Saying that, I have no idea why you think you should tell everyone, other than the kind person who tried to help you

Exactly my thought.

And the idea of a wild life photographer who goes out with a dog that chases the animals away is hilarious.

I like to take candid pictures of people in the street but unfortunately my day-glo pink suit, revolving bow tie and 10x8 stand camera tend to make people wary of me Grin

gary_d
gary_d e2 Member 6519 forum postsgary_d vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 12:11 PM


Quote: And the idea of a wild life photographer who goes out with a dog that chases the animals away is hilarious.

Grin

But I am not a wildlife photographer, I am a dog walker that takes photographs or did I not make that clear.

Last Modified By gary_d at 18 Nov 2012 - 12:12 PM
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18 Nov 2012 - 3:52 PM


Quote: And the idea of a wild life photographer who goes out with a dog that chases the animals away is hilarious.

Grin

But I am not a wildlife photographer, I am a dog walker that takes photographs or did I not make that clear.

Gary,

You might think that.

But the fact that you belong to ePz and take the trouble to post your images here does suggest that you are under-selling your level of interest in photography.

OK - at present you take snaps of birds while out walking Patch. Great.

But would you have no interest in leaving Patch at home (or in the car) now and then and concentrating on the photography? Maybe then your anonymous benefactor's advice might be useful.

Good luck, whichever way you go.

Paintman
Paintman e2 Member 7830 forum postsPaintman vcard United Kingdom172 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 4:04 PM

Is there any chance of posting the list of ways to improve your wildlife photos by this person as I wouldn't mind improving my shotsSmile

P.S. this is a serious request.

gary_d
gary_d e2 Member 6519 forum postsgary_d vcard Wales12 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 4:59 PM


Quote:
Grin







But would you have no interest in leaving Patch at home (or in the car) now and then and concentrating on the photography? Maybe then your anonymous benefactor's advice might be useful.

.

Patch is almost 14 year old so perish the thought that time will come sooner than I want it to so until that time comes I intend to enjoy every walk we have together.

But I take your point and thanks for the input.

SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 54226 forum postsSlowSong vcard England28 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 5:05 PM

Gary, I do sympathise. Of course you can't leave Patch at home, and I for one love seeing him. One sad day you might have time to stop a little longer to concentrate on your photography, but in the meantime you're happy doing what you're doing and no-one should tell you otherwise. Smile

However, as mentioned above, it would be interesting to hear the tips this helpful person gave you. I find bird photography a complete nightmare, but then I don't have the equipment to do it properly, nor the inclination if truth be told. But I do admire many of the bird and wildlife photographers on here whether that's my area of interest or not. I'm sure we can all learn something.

xxx

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314923 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 5:15 PM


Quote: And the idea of a wild life photographer who goes out with a dog that chases the animals away is hilarious

Years ago I`d go fishing and do a bit of wild life photography at the same time, I even got to make friends with an inquisitive Weasel on one occasion Smile

lobsterboy
lobsterboy Site Moderator 1014023 forum postslobsterboy vcard United Kingdom13 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 5:21 PM


Quote: Patch is almost 14 year old so perish the thought that time will come sooner than I want it to so until that time comes I intend to enjoy every walk we have together.

You ain't ever going to regret doing that.

Coleslaw
Coleslaw e2 Member 913403 forum postsColeslaw vcard Wales28 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 5:30 PM


Quote: Patch is almost 14 year old so perish the thought that time will come sooner than I want it to so until that time comes I intend to enjoy every walk we have together.

+1. Best answer I heard.

puertouk
puertouk  21054 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
18 Nov 2012 - 5:55 PM

If you enjoy doing what you do, just do it. You are not looking to be a wildlife photographer to publish your work in some fancy mag. Go out with your dog, enjoy his company as he must enjoy yours, take your shots and enjoy life to the full.
Stephen

779HOB
779HOB  2999 forum posts United Kingdom
18 Nov 2012 - 6:06 PM

I'm no wildlife photographer it just doesn't do anything for me but I think this is a cracking shot and one of the best wildlife shots I have seen on here. Link to one of Gary's photos.

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