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ianrobinson
ianrobinson e2 Member 41108 forum postsianrobinson vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 9:48 PM

Hi all,

I know i will get stick for this but hey, to be fare I am only being straight up and honest.
there has been a landscape competition of late where the winner although a nice shot the horizon was well off line and beat some really serious photos from some very good photographers.
before we go with I am jealous, i can say that is definitely not the case, I am however confused as to what judges look for in a category.

Make up your own minds on this image, popcorn and wine are at the ready, will be very intersting reading and here is the link.

http://www.ephotozine.com/competitions/photo/bamburgh-castle-at-dawn-34222209

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Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315465 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 9:54 PM

Ian the Horizon looks about right to me, the land should be sloping to the left, it would look very odd if it did not.

wrinkles
wrinkles e2 Member 5349 forum postswrinkles vcard United Kingdom
20 Jul 2013 - 10:02 PM

If this picture was entered into a club competition it would have been thrown out, plus the subject matter seems to be of a select number places deemed to be the best?Wink

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315465 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 10:04 PM

Look at it closely, the very small amount of the horizon that you can see is level, the rest is tidal and should be sloping.

mikehit
mikehit  56535 forum posts United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 10:11 PM

The horizon looks off to me as well (and my wife) - not much, but it is there. Yet the castle looks vertical. Maybe it is lens distortion.

Who knows what judges look for...in our club I have seen photos awarded 19 or 20 by one judge but 13 or 14 by another.

mikehit
mikehit  56535 forum posts United Kingdom10 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 10:13 PM


Quote: Look at it closely, the very small amount of the horizon that you can see is level, the rest is tidal and should be sloping.

It is the left edge of the horizon that looks odd to me, the bit under the island, hence my comment about distortion.

WhiteRose1
WhiteRose1 e2 Member 41056 forum postsWhiteRose1 vcard England136 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 10:17 PM


Quote: Look at it closely, the very small amount of the horizon that you can see is level, the rest is tidal and should be sloping.

My thoughts as well.

martin.w
martin.w e2 Member 12352 forum postsmartin.w vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 10:57 PM

There is a (very) slight slope to the horizon, but it could just be the curve of the wide angled lens. I have several seascapes that slope down the odd degree on both sides, I suppose could correct it, but hardly anybody notices and I am usually to lazy to do it anyway Wink

Christographer_Hull

The horizon is fine on it. The sea is sloping as it should be, dont forget the land rises are the tide drags/deposits the sand.

To be honest, I like the photograph and the reflections in it but i'm not blown away. Saying that, I see so many landscape photographs these days it takes something amazing to blown me away!

patters
patters  101786 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 11:14 PM

The horizon is perfect, the sea/sand on the left side and the grass bank on the right give an illusion of wonky

patters
patters  101786 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 11:19 PM

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Campervanman
Campervanman e2 Member 6715 forum postsCampervanman vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
20 Jul 2013 - 11:33 PM

It is a very (tiny really) slight slope, certainly not 'well off' compared to many. I've just measured the distance from the horizon (the sea bit only) to the top of the frame at each end, there's less than 1mm difference. Could be a little edge distortion from a wide angle lens as already said. Also the edge of the line of rocks slopes down and can give the impression of the whole thing sloping. The castle walls seem vertical, does that tell us anything?

MichaelMelb_AU
20 Jul 2013 - 11:48 PM

17mm lens (judging by DOF and 17-70 mm range), complex terrain - give me a break! The castle is not wonky, and the photograph looks great. Hide your ruler and relax...Smile

ianrobinson
ianrobinson e2 Member 41108 forum postsianrobinson vcard United Kingdom8 Constructive Critique Points
21 Jul 2013 - 1:29 AM

Must be my cabinet makers eyes Tongue.

good to see some different opinions though.

monstersnowman
21 Jul 2013 - 6:26 AM

Looking at the castle it looks pretty right to me but I can see how the topography of the land gives the illusion of an obvious tilt. In these situations the image does sometimes give the viewer an uneasy feeling of the image leaning and I sometimes make an incorrect adjustment to give the image an overall pleasant feel despite my adjustment sometimes actually creating a horizon that is not as it should be. It's just a case of taste I guess, but I would always err on the side of ensuring buildings had a correct orientation if the two obviously conflicted as lake, coast and mountain lines are never really level.

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