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Confused about lens compatibility Canon EOS 20D / 300D

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conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 4:18 AM

Im trying to make sense of a few specifications of cameras on my wish list. Can anyone explain the following specifications on the Canon sites to me (since Canon are not answering my queries):

Canon EOS 300D: "Compatible with all Canon EF lenses." Not EF-S? If so, why is it sold in a kit with an EF-S lens?

Canon EOS 20D: "Compatible with Canon EF/EF-S lenses." So, more lenses than the 300D? But why not "all EF", like in the 300D description? Is it only a limited number of EF lenses for the 20D? And if so, which ones?

And about other lens brands: I know about the Sigma problems with Canon DSLR compatibility, but how about Tamron, Soligor, Cosina?

Any light anyone can shed on this is highly appreciated!

Conrad

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Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139385 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 4:19 AM

The Canon 300D is compatible with EF-S lenses. There is no doubt about that whatever! Smile

There are just 3 EF-S lenses at present: 10-22, 18-55 and 17-85. No doubt there will be more in due course.

conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 4:23 AM

Thanks, CB. That just leaves my 4 questions about the 20D, and one about other brands...

Conrad

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139385 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 4:27 AM

I think my response has answered ALL your questions on the 20D.

I personally would not buy cheap lenses to put on an expensive camera. Better to buy a cheap camera and put on expensive lenses! So can't help you with the other queries.

conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 4:29 AM

Errr... let me see if I get this right, CB - do you consider all other brands as "cheap", or all EF lenses, or ... - Im not sure exactly what you mean. I know Cosina is considered to be cheap, and probably Soligor as well, maybe Tamron (although some of their lenses have won amazing numbers of awards), but I think youd get opposition if you attacked Sigma, right?

Conrad

Edit: Your reply, CB, was only about EF-S lenses. Not about EF. And your last post confuses me. Is that remark about cheap just about other brands than Canon, or about EF as well?

conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 4:44 AM

Does anyone else know this?


Quote: Canon EOS 20D: "Compatible with Canon EF/EF-S lenses." So, more lenses than the 300D? But why not "all EF", like in the 300D description? Is it only a limited number of EF lenses for the 20D? And if so, which ones?

Conrad

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139385 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 4:44 AM

All Canon EOS cameras are compatible with all EF lenses.

I have never (and wouldn't) used a non-Canon lens on a Canon camera.

conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 4:51 AM

Ah, okay, that explains your reaction, CB, and answers several more questions. Thanks.

Conrad

P.S. I think I can understand that attitude, although I have to add that my wife has a really nice Sigma macro lens for her 300D which I would hate to call cheap or inferior. But, having said that, I would probably prefer just Canon as well if I bought, for instance, a 20D. It would probably become a step-by-step purchase plan that way, though, but theres nothing wrong with that.

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139385 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 5:00 AM

My only experience with a non-Canon lens on a Canon (a Tamron I received as a gift) was not a happy one and that probably has influenced me somewhat!

But I will repeat: it is better to put a a high-quality and expensive lens on a cheaper camera than the other way around.

conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 5:05 AM

That makes sense as a principle to live by, CB. Im just trying to find out whether or not I would be able to use lenses already in our possession (my wifes and mine) until I could buy something really nice. Id probably start with buying just the body, or the body and the kit lens, and then building up a range of nice lenses one by one. Still just a wish right now, but being able to do it that way, would bring this a lot closer.

Thanks for your input.

Conrad

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139385 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 5:06 AM

I would wait and see what Canon announces in the next couple of weeks. There may be a successor to the 300D.

conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 5:17 AM

Yes, I know - an 8.2 Megapixel 350D, so it seems. But I hear theres some doubt as to whether the Japanese are restricting it to their domestic market or not.

Conrad

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139385 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 5:23 AM

The 350D is just "vapourware" at the moment. The megapixellge of the 300D's successor is not known but they will want some "space" between it and the 20D/1D Mk II I would have thought.

deviant
deviant  103024 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 5:30 AM

I heard it was a 16 MPixel full frame camera for 300! Then I woke up to a strong smell of coffee.

conrad
conrad  910873 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
8 Feb 2005 - 5:35 AM

Well, we can dream, cant we. Smile

Conrad

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