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sandwedge
sandwedge  8731 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 9:12 AM

Can anyone help me by explaining in plain English (not pc jargon please) how I can repeat embedding a list of keywords into similar images in Elements 8. I cant seem to copy and paste in the keyword box. It is frustrating having to type the same words over and over into individual images.

Last Modified By sandwedge at 4 Feb 2013 - 9:12 AM
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chalkhillblue
chalkhillblue e2 Member 5143 forum postschalkhillblue vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 9:32 AM

Hello
On the right hand side of the organiser are your list of keywords, you can create a new keyword to suit.
Either control click for individual images to highlight or hold down the shift key and click on the first and last image
to highlight several images at the same time, then just drag and drop the keyword onto any one of the highlighted
images and all of them will contain that keyword which will show the icon and embed the keyword in the exif data.
David

mikehit
mikehit  56339 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 9:41 AM

Highlight all the images you want to apply the keywords to (CTRL+click each image, or highlight the first in the sequence and Shift-click the last in the sequence and everything in between will be highlighted). For a new keyword, type in the keywords and press OK.

Chalkhill's will work for existing keywords

Last Modified By mikehit at 4 Feb 2013 - 9:42 AM
sandwedge
sandwedge  8731 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 11:35 AM

Thank you. I have never used or got to grips with Organiser, I have been using the main Edit programme, can I do it in the normal Edit programme?

GlennH
GlennH  91918 forum posts France1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 11:46 AM

Does the Elements Organiser support metadata templates? If so, you'd also be able to easily create a custom XMP-template and apply it across multiple files.

sandwedge
sandwedge  8731 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 12:02 PM

Thanks GlennH. I think this convinces me I need to study a course on the use of Elements. I dont really know what a "tag" means let alone an XMP-Template ! One of the hazards of being a 50's baby methinks ! I looked at Chalkhil's solution but I cannot find anywhere to type keywords on the right hand side of the organiser. It says keyword tags but there is nowhere to type in the keywords I want to add. Sigh..................

mikehit
mikehit  56339 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 12:14 PM

A tag is simpoly that - like having a label tag tied to an item in a shop (in fact the symbol for a tag is just that).
At the top of the 'keyword tag' panel is a big '+' - click on the arrow next to that and choose 'new keyword tag'. You have to enter a category name ('anamials' for example) and a keyword ('dogs'). When you press OK, 'aniamls' will appear in the list below with 'dogs' as a sub-item. The tag will be applied to the photo.
If the category is already on the list, then highlight the category word, then press the '+' and the 'category' field will already be pre-filled.

GlennH
GlennH  91918 forum posts France1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 12:26 PM

Maybe this'll be similar in Elements - with a photo selected try hitting CTRL + I keys to open 'File Info' - or alternatively look for 'File Info' under 'File' in the drop-down menus.

Then under the 'description' tab you have the option of directly entering keywords (alternatively I guess you can create your own lexicon as you can in Bridge and enter words by clicking on them).

Once you've added your caption and keywords, hopefully you might be able to save them to a template by looking for this at the bottom of the dialogue box:

temp.jpg

By 'exporting' you are able to save a template, which you can then apply to similar photos in the future (the chief advantage over copy and paste methods).

sandwedge
sandwedge  8731 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 1:29 PM

Thanks again Glenn, that is how I am getting my keywords into the files but in Elements you cannot cut/copy and paste in the keywords box so I have been writing the same words again and again in each individual file.

Thanks also to Mikehit. I will now go and try that. Regards, John

sandwedge
sandwedge  8731 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 1:34 PM

OK Mikehit, I did that and I have a tag named Sailing, so how do I add the actual keywords?

chalkhillblue
chalkhillblue e2 Member 5143 forum postschalkhillblue vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 2:03 PM

If you drag and drop the sailing tag onto a selected photo it will create an icon under the photo and enter the word sailing
into your exif data, which you can see if you right click on your photo and from the drop down choose preferences,
you can create sub keywords in the same way and drop a second or third sub keyword onto the photo e.g sailing,
Isle of Wight, Admirals cup.
David

mikehit
mikehit  56339 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 2:10 PM

The tag is the keyword. Once you have clicked on the keyword tag, and you start to drag it you have to drag it over the actual image because if you drag it and release the click while it is over the grey border round the thumbnail it will not apply the tag.

chalkhillblue
chalkhillblue e2 Member 5143 forum postschalkhillblue vcard United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 2:15 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFcZgdRmGYU

This might help.

David

sandwedge
sandwedge  8731 forum posts United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 2:37 PM

David, Thanks for that. It has confirmed my suspicion that we maybe on crossed wires. In Elements Edit, if you open an image and go to File Info, it offers boxes in which you can insert information, such as your name, date and there is a box for loading Keywords. When my image is loaded on a Library website people can locate that image by typing into the site Search Box any word that I have inserted into the Keywords box and the image will come up. IE. I have a portfolio of sailing shots so the keyword box would read something like: sail, sailing, sailor, skipper, mast, marine, mariner, ocean, sea, yacht, boat, ship. cruise, cruising, etc etc like a kind of Thesaurus. It is in that box in "File Info" that I cannot cut and paste. So it is not a general tag I am looking for but specific keywords to insert and imbed in the file info. Sorry if I sound thick but I hope that helps all of you to understand my need.

Last Modified By sandwedge at 4 Feb 2013 - 2:39 PM
mikehit
mikehit  56339 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
4 Feb 2013 - 2:43 PM

If you highlight one or more images, then go File\Write keyrod Tag and Properites Info to Photo this will (I believe) embed the keywords into the image when you export the image to your website and this can be recognised by other programmes. No copying is needed. Try it with one image and see if it works.

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