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daviewat
daviewat  104104 forum posts Scotland
20 Apr 2005 - 5:02 AM

I am hopefully going to be able to create a web site for myself now that we are broadbanded. I would like info on how to go about this seemingly mind-boggling task. I have looked at a site called 1&1 and have seen an 8.99 a month package. Really just wondering if anyone has used simmilar and if they are sucssesful with thier site.

Cheers

Dave

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u08mcb
u08mcb  105817 forum posts
20 Apr 2005 - 5:07 AM

html-kit

Cut my teeth on this before going on to doing it all manually.

ray1
ray1  10518 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
20 Apr 2005 - 5:15 AM

Unless you want a database the cheaper 1&1 home account is plenty. I use 1&1 and have had no problem with them, except their crap tech support who take up to 3 weeks to answer an email. The good thing about 1&1 is that you can run a number of sites from your package at no extra charge. You also get a software bundle that is easy to use or you can use the online software. However, if you only want to run one site I would recommend www.sitehq.com. Their 25 per package is plenty and you get a database so you can use photo galleries like coppermine. If you look around the web you will also find website templates that give you a ready made site and all you need to do is fill in the gaps where text and pictures go. Very easy. Some of these templates also require no addition softwate like dreamweaver.

last ten
last ten  10416 forum posts Isle Of Man
20 Apr 2005 - 5:48 AM

Godaddy are IMHO one of the best web hosts that you can get and they are very reasonably priced as well, their technical side is second to none and touch wood!! since I have been hosted by them I have never had a site go down at all - Check them out Godaddy.com if you want anymore help just let me know.
Peter

nickp
nickp  9491 forum posts
20 Apr 2005 - 6:30 AM

I use Oneandone for hosting my various websites, and have done for over 4 years now. They have been entirely reliable over that time and pretty easy to use. I have the Business package which includes access to one MYSQL database which means I can set up my own weblogs, galleries and other content management systems using standard 3rd party software packages. I've had a generally good experience with them. Whether the site is successful you'll have to judge for yourself - check out the link in my profile, but it won't tell you much.....

Downsides for me are: no access to a command line or a control panel (specifically to run scheduled jobs), and the email support is pretty slow. (I could always pay more for the scheduling facility) On the other hand, telephone support even into the small hours has always been good.

Personally if this is your first foray into website building I would explore what "free" webspace is on offer, if any, from your ISP and work out how you're going to use that, then look for a specialist webhost when you worked out want you want to do, and how to do it.

BTW if you do go for a separate webhost, check that their servers are physically in the UK. I spent 6 months tearing my hair out over a website hosted by a UK company on machines in Texas. The time lag while small for casual observers was getting enough to drive me up the wall after a while. No longer!!

daviewat
daviewat  104104 forum posts Scotland
20 Apr 2005 - 8:32 AM

My real question is would I be able to set up something along the lines of Owan Clarke
using 1 &1 packages ?
Probably easier if you look at 1&1 web site and check the 8.99 a month package.
Thanks again.

Dave

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20 Apr 2005 - 8:40 AM

I use www.names.co.uk for my web hosting. They are not the cheapest but they are very reliable and their servers are fast.

However, my needs are probably different to yours as my websites (I have 3 at present) contain in one case hundreds of photos and in another (my wedding website at www.harwoodphotography.com literally thousands of photos which take up a lot of space.

I maintain the websites myself as HTML is really quite simple and intuitive (like all things - easy when you know how)

Barrie Smile

ray1
ray1  10518 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
20 Apr 2005 - 8:58 AM

Yes you could set that site up with 1&1 with the free netobjects software. Once you have leant the software that site is a couple of hours work. The 4.99 home package is more than enough to run a site like that and you will be wasting your money if you go for the business package.

nickp
nickp  9491 forum posts
20 Apr 2005 - 9:01 AM

The short answer is yes - I've just gone back to the website creator in my 1&1 account to remind myself and made a couple of pages with pictures on. So with a bit of effort you COULD recreate Owan's site with the 1&1 tools. That is, pages of thumbnails each linked to a full size image on another page. But its painful once you've got the hang of it.

Ray1's nailed it, above ...

ktcam
ktcam  9457 forum posts Scotland
20 Apr 2005 - 9:16 AM

Davie,
I used to be with 'one and one' then got totally pissed off with them. I have since moved to Yahoo!Geocities which is fab. I have done a website for Angie (Arwensgrace), and have a few of my own which goes to prove that as a beginner Yahoo is easySmile
You get the option of a free site with 15mb storage or a paid one (ad free) with 25 megs (or more if you wish) for around 4.50 - 5.00 a month - which you pay on a month to month basis. There is no set up fee and the bonus with Yahoo! Geocities, is that you can use the page builder which they supply, (so easy and straightforward) and also incorporate any HTML code which gives you the freedom to be creative and imaginative with presentation. For a simple, easy to build website that even an idiot could do, I would vouch for Yahoo.
By the way....for copy and paste HTML visit dynamicdrive.com - they have loads of stuff to spice your site up and make it really proffessional and it's as easy as ABC to paste it onto your geocities site.
Hope this helpsSmile

Kate.

ktcam
ktcam  9457 forum posts Scotland
20 Apr 2005 - 9:30 AM

Edit*


Just had a look at Owens site and its straightforward and easy to do with yahoo. If you want, i can knock up a sample page on my own site and send you a link or you can acess my website to see what i have done with the facilites yahoo gave me. I have the freebie option because i'm a tight b@st@rd.
You have to set up a yahoo id first though in order to get a geocities site but once you've done that its no hassle from then on. You can even get your yahoo email addy if you want or keep your own for email enquiries. Yahoo is really worth seriously considering. To thumnail any images I have downloaded this tool which takes the sweat out of everything. Its called 'easy thumbnails' and you can size many images to the same size as you want. The addy is:
http://www.fookes.com
If you want any more help i'll be glad to assistWink

owenclarke
owenclarke  1092 forum posts
20 Apr 2005 - 9:45 AM

dave i got it very cheap with a company called beglobal.
think it works out at 3$ per month or close to it and not very much to register my domain name. I have had no problems with them. I built the site with macromedia dreamweaver but there is quite a lot of free wysiwyg software out if your search yahoo for free web builders. I taught myself through trial and error so the software is usually quite easy to work out. email me for more info if you want my email is in my profile

daviewat
daviewat  104104 forum posts Scotland
20 Apr 2005 - 10:27 AM

Thanks guys all this info, just having never done anything like this before I need to know ins and outs. Owen I may well e-mail you as your site is the kind of thing I was hoping to achieve.

Kate if you could that would be great.

e-mail is daviewat(at)gmail(dot)com

Also a lot of people at the hostel continually ask me for prints of the images I have framed about the place so it would ne nice if they could do that from a web site themselves, possibly paying a fee through paypal or similar etc.

Cheers

Dave

PS of course it may be easier to pay someone who knows what to do set it up for me !!!!!!!! any takers ??????????

stuwhitt
stuwhitt  101357 forum posts United Kingdom
20 Apr 2005 - 10:54 AM

After my own experience I would avoid 1&1 like the plague, their customer service is abismal, especially when you want to leave. For an extremely friendly host I can't reccomend thesehighly enough, I am not affiliated with betterwebspace at all, but they provide inexpensive fully featured hosting that is both reliable and plus they offer superb customer service

Stu

ray1
ray1  10518 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
20 Apr 2005 - 11:22 AM

Dave if you do decide to go the 1&1 site and use the free software that you get (netobjects) let me know and I will do you a site the same as owens for free. Ill make the template up and email to you. You can then import it into your copy of netobjects so you can update your gallery as you wish. If you like I can do you a small demo before you decide which route you wish to take.

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