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I wonder if a large closed critique team would lead to free photo training service with so many qualified tutors on hand?
Quote: One possibility may be to have a much larger critique team - maybe 50-100 members - and only members of the enlarged team would be permitted to critique. Team membership would be by application and the reward would be the usual free e2 membership.
This is something we have shied away from in the past but, if there is a real problem here, let's do some lateral thinking.
I also wonder if a large closed critique team would stop occasional critique contributors having a go, if you see a standard member commenting then weigh it accordingly. There is a real benefit in trying to constructively critique a photo as it forces you to stop and think about how it relates to you own work as well. I'd never find the time to commit to being in the group but do love dropping by now and again to critique a shot and then weigh my comments by more senior members.
Thanks for the C gallery its brilliant.
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I think there is a lot brilliant about the Critique Gallery - a few things wrong, doubtless, and we're working behind the swce3nes to make some improvements. A "large"(50 or so is mentioned) team would IMO bring its own problems- try administering and keeping in line a team of 50!.The Critique Team do a fair bit of work behind the scenes to keep the gallery running, it's not just their upfront critique contributions. I'm all for improving the team's effectiveness, while at the same time improving the quality and standard of input from non-team members (several of whom do much more actual "critting" than myself), and constantly striving to make the site the kind of place where constructive learning is a high priority and everyone should feel they have a chance of contributing to as well as benefitting from this
It may be a very large team is not the best way forward, but could we at least consider bringing into the team those who contribute a lot of their time to the CG? That way, they could be involved with team discussions etc.
Just a thought.
Quote: e.g. if the model moved 2 feet to the left, she'd have plummeted to her death
Might be better if t'were the photographer.....? LOL..!
I post pictures in the CG occasionally and have always received constructive useful advise. I also read through it often as I find the advise given to others very helpful in my own photography.
When I joined this site nearly three years ago (that gave me a shock when I checked how long ago it was!!) I did so because I saw it as an invaluable learning tool. The quality of advise not only in the CG but also the main gallery was second to none and I feel I have learnt loads! I didn't even what shutter speed or aperture meant at the start!
These days I feel the site has changed. As I see it there is very little critique at all in the main gallery. I would rather have 10 comments telling me why people don't like a shot than one "nice shot". I know that the site is huge now, and that looking at every shot is beyond most of us, but sometimes it just feels like no ones even looking!
On a slightly separate point, I see an awful lot of really amazing photo's by some obviously talented people with absolutely nothing in the description! Now, I don't expect top professionals to give away all their trade secrets, but some hints on how shots were put together and processed would be both interesting and helpful.
I guess what I'm saying is, if the site is to continue as a learning aid to photography, then critique should not be confined to the critique gallery and a little more shared knowledge would be great!
that is and always has been the ethos of the site. However, it's hard enought to "police" the quality of critique in the Critique Gallery, and would be an impossible task in the main gallery. It's really up to individual members to make that effort. One problem often referred to in that regard is people being put off giving honest critique because of the fear of a bad response from the poster
One way to minimise this and optimise good grit on your uploadsis to make it clear both on your welcome page, and also in the description to your individual uploads, that you welcome constructive crit.
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