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sallybea
sallybea  441 forum posts United Kingdom
28 Feb 2011 - 2:07 PM

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Could someone please help me? Please could you look at the properties of the above image and tell me why it is that if I use manual settings on my D200 I get this black picture. It is only if I use flash that I get an in decent capture.

I generally use a bank of four custom setting which I have set in camera - to use in different modes such as point and shoot, action etc., so do not always use manual. At the moment I cannot use manual at all.

Many thanks,
Sally

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digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
28 Feb 2011 - 2:12 PM

Without wishing any disrespect, do you understand that if you are in manual you have to adjust both the shutter speed and aperture yourself to get the desired exposure? My guess would be that these are set to let too little light into the camera in normal circumstances, but the flash is overcoming that because it is making the place brighter.

Ian

thewaiter
thewaiter  121177 forum posts England9 Constructive Critique Points
28 Feb 2011 - 3:12 PM

as with Ian, what was the aperture and shutter speed used on this ?

Knickeronian
28 Feb 2011 - 6:46 PM

Its not 1st April yet but I think the giveaway is "It is only if I use flash that I get an indecent capture." Flash and indecent capture? Yes I get it.

sallybea
sallybea  441 forum posts United Kingdom
28 Feb 2011 - 8:35 PM

Sorry Guys, just a typo nothing indecent meant. I just have a lousy capture.
Properties as below

EXPOSURE TIME 1/800 SEC
ISO SPEED ISO-1600
EXPOSURE 1/10
ISO SPEED 100
EXPOSURE 0 STEP
FOCAL LENGTH 300MM
MAX APERTURE 5
METERING SPOT
35MM FOCAL LENGTH 35
WHITE BALANCE AUTO
I might add that I still get a black picture even in bright sunlight. Presently have a bank of custom settings on the Nikon which work very well but would like to have a go at Manual settings. Anyone know of a step by step guide(for novices) on how to do this on the Nikon D200 starting with the basics!
Thanks Sally

miptog
miptog  83532 forum posts United Kingdom61 Constructive Critique Points
28 Feb 2011 - 9:06 PM

Hi Sally. Try this:

Used Matrix metering. Choose any manual setting, and look at the inbuilt camera meter. Adjust either ISO, Aperture or Shutter until l you get the correct exposure (that is the meter should read in the middle of meter gauge).

sallybea
sallybea  441 forum posts United Kingdom
28 Feb 2011 - 10:12 PM

Hi miptog, Very helpful, I will experiment with it tomorrow, thank you very much! I can now get a picture instead of a black screen. Does anyone use the Nikon Cheat Sheet?

dlegros
dlegros  12217 forum posts England
1 Mar 2011 - 7:47 PM

Where in the UK are you?

There are plenty of Nikon shooters who could offer help.

I'm West Midlands based, shooting with D80 and D300 - if you're local I would be happy to meet up and help.

Dom

sallybea
sallybea  441 forum posts United Kingdom
1 Mar 2011 - 8:16 PM

Hi Dom, based in North Norfolk.

Sally

dlegros
dlegros  12217 forum posts England
1 Mar 2011 - 8:33 PM

Ah, bit far for me, but I'm sure there are other ePZers closer.

sallybea
sallybea  441 forum posts United Kingdom
1 Mar 2011 - 9:16 PM

Not a problem - will spend sometime looking at the Nikon Digitutor - guess it is all about me wanted to learn more about my camera. Thanks to all for trying to point me in the right direction.
Sally

NEWMANP
NEWMANP e2 Member 61587 forum postsNEWMANP vcard United Kingdom574 Constructive Critique Points
2 Mar 2011 - 12:47 PM

hello there,

i have a d200, d300, and used nikon manual cameras too.

just to test the camera in manual, put on a stardard sort of length lens, ignore any meter readings

assuming cloudy bright conditions.

set iso 100

set aperature f8

set shutter speed 1/125 sec

this is the old kodachrome slide film box recommended settings for cloudy bright conditions.

if its too bright drop the aperature to f11, if too dark open to f5.6

if you get nothing come back and lets try again.

Phil

User_Removed
2 Mar 2011 - 1:34 PM

Spot on Phil. The CdS prism on my Mamiya RB67 gave a reading of 1/125 at f/11 in sunny conditions using Ektar 100 film yesterday.

Remember how we managed in the days before any exposure meters when "normal cameras" (i.e. those costing shillings rather than pounds) had only one shutter speed and two holes in an aperture slide roughly equating to f/16 and f/11?

.

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sallybea
sallybea  441 forum posts United Kingdom
2 Mar 2011 - 4:39 PM

Hi Phil, and LeftForum,

Really appreciate your time and advice.

Really dull day here - set the camera to( M) on the back - Program M. Set f5.6 Exposure 1/125sec - at ISO 100 but it has been another really dark day today. So, set white balance to cloudy day hoping that would help but had to increase the ISO to 800 just to get the picture attached - probably could have done with more ISO but would be interested to hear your commentsephotozine-027.jpg

A dose of sunshine might help. Look forward to hearing your comments.

digicammad
digicammad  1121988 forum posts United Kingdom37 Constructive Critique Points
2 Mar 2011 - 4:52 PM

Hi Sally

Unless you are shooting at night I would have expected those settings to massively over expose your shot.

Can you confirm a couple of things:

- Can you see the meter reading, either through the viewfinder or on the top panel? If so where does it show when you use the settings above, in the middle?

- do you have any filters on the lens?

- when you look through the viewfinder does the image look darker than you would expect?

Either we are all missing something obvious or there is something wrong with the equipment.

Ian

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