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A_Harrison
6 Feb 2007 - 8:27 PM

Has anyone out there heard of or used Terragen (A terrain generator program)

You can control the land made with it,also the sky,clouds,water,water,sun...etc

I have found a few members using this and claiming they have taken a landscape and manipulated it when in fact I believe the image never saw the inside of any kind of camera.Every inch of it was made in a computer.

Do you think this is wrong?

Allan

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redbulluk
redbulluk  11218 forum posts United Kingdom
6 Feb 2007 - 8:32 PM

Define wrong.

A_Harrison
6 Feb 2007 - 8:34 PM

Claiming it startred out as a photo taken with a camera when in fact it never was.

conrad
conrad  1010874 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
6 Feb 2007 - 8:39 PM

That would be deception. But is that really what they claim? Or do they simply not mention how the images were made? (Which is not the same in my book...)

redbulluk
redbulluk  11218 forum posts United Kingdom
6 Feb 2007 - 8:39 PM

Claiming it as a photo, yes... and kinda dumb - most (freeware) scenery generators are relatively easy to spot.

Doing it, and combining it with a photo, no...whatever floats your boat.

conrad
conrad  1010874 forum posts116 Constructive Critique Points
6 Feb 2007 - 8:42 PM

Yes, good point - as long as there's something of a photo in the image somewhere, I have no problem with it.

A_Harrison
6 Feb 2007 - 8:43 PM

Oh they say where the picture was taken and even claim they wrote a program to manipulate it.

My kids can make one of these in about an hour but don't claim they went half way around the world to do it

Al

fauxtography
6 Feb 2007 - 9:10 PM

examples?

A_Harrison
6 Feb 2007 - 9:12 PM

Do you mean where the pictures are?

fauxtography
6 Feb 2007 - 9:14 PM

yup. I'd be interested to see them... Smile

A_Harrison
6 Feb 2007 - 9:22 PM

I have two in my folio if you go back about a year.

They are called My Mountain and Desert Sunrise.

Sorry I can't get this link thing to work.

I never claimed them to be real though

Al

A_Harrison
6 Feb 2007 - 9:23 PM

Not ready to name names.!!

keithh
keithh  1022804 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
7 Feb 2007 - 2:37 AM

I've seen two....they are very obvious, but at least one of them was in the landscape AND Digitally Manipulated categories.

Doclassie
Doclassie  91135 forum posts England
7 Feb 2007 - 3:16 AM

I don't think its any worse than people putting fractal patterns in the gallery.... or any of the fantasy digital creations that you see from time to time.

Do I think they're photography? No.. do they have a right to sit in the gallery? Yes..... its not my site.... I don't decide what goes in and what is excluded. I use it for what I want to get out/put in and so do others.

If someone claims to have taken a genuine photo and its actually entirely CGI constructed using cheap 3D software.. then I feel sorry for them, and the people who haven't the eye to spot the difference ;O)

joolsb
joolsb  927115 forum posts Switzerland38 Constructive Critique Points
7 Feb 2007 - 8:18 AM

A few years ago, I was bored with time on my hands and spent a fair amount of time with Bryce creating elaborate 3D landscapes. One of these is my top earner over on one of the cheapo stock-photography sites. Even had one customer complaining that she thought it really was a photo until she saw it full size - despite me making it clear in the picture's description that it was a 3D rendering!

I've even been tempted to upload it here on a couple of occasions, just for a laugh....

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