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gcarth
gcarth e2 Member 102251 forum postsgcarth vcard United Kingdom1 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 12:14 PM

In the Guardian today, there are about four pics from the Deutsche Bȍrse Photographic Competition.
Now, I know photography and all art is basically subjective but really this has to be a joke.
Even the weakest efforts in ephotozine are better than these totally meaningless prints.
They have no aesthetic appeal whatsover and they don't even seem to have any worthwhile message.
I think art really is becoming more and more bonkers (for example the Turner Gallery) and reflects a bonkers society, I suppose...SadWink

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puertouk
puertouk  21053 forum posts United Kingdom17 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 1:00 PM

I think they try to be different to others and feel they are creating art, when in fact it's a b*****y mess. I enjoy messing around with images and trying new techniques, but at the end of the day, you cannot beat a good image.

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139388 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 1:25 PM

Art is sometimes a mess - Tracy Emin's Unmade Bed is a prime example. (To me it's.......... a mess! Wink)

Perhaps Art - like Beauty - is in the eye of the beholder............................... and the gullible! Grin

mikehit
mikehit  46146 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 1:28 PM

I suppose being the best four out of 5 entries is a sort of victory 'toungue in cheek emoticon'

monstersnowman
11 Jul 2012 - 1:38 PM

Well the winner, if I understand the reviews, doesn't use a camera, just collages photographs - in anyone's eyes surely if they aren't even directing a camera shoot (as in Gregory Crewdson) then really that isn't photography. I am not keen on the illuminance ones and The Christopher Williams' did nothing at all for me. The kids in the dump scenes I have seen many times before, albeit memorable ... All in all I can only say that it takes all sorts and if we all had the same taste it would be a boring world so what's right and what's wrong? :0)

cats_123
cats_123 e2 Member 103999 forum postscats_123 vcard Northern Ireland24 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 1:56 PM

The rubbish can be found here Grin

whipspeed
whipspeed e2 Member 94039 forum postswhipspeed vcard United Kingdom22 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 2:36 PM

Emperor's taylor is still in business then Smile


I can sometimes see merit in images in some of these major competitions, but have to say, these really do beggar belief. But if this is the fashion I'm off to photograph the roses in the garden using as much flash as I possibly can and nick a few old photo's off the web to stick together Smile

SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 54203 forum postsSlowSong vcard England28 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 2:48 PM

which "has significantly contributed to photography in Europe. How exactly?
The winner'll certainly be laughing all the way to the bank if this is all it takes.

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mikehit
mikehit  46146 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 3:06 PM

Well, if you have to ask, here is the critique of the entries.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/2012/jul/10/deutsche-borse-photography-pr...

The write-up is as pretentious as the photos.

keithh
keithh  1022760 forum posts Wallis and Futuna29 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 3:29 PM

I do like John Stezaker's stuff - very clever and slightly unnerving.

Don't forget that all of the work for consideration has been exhibited (sorry..importantly exhibited) and/or published in printed works and books.

Maybe it actually shows how out of touch most of us really are.
Wink

Deanooo
Deanooo  2 Wales
11 Jul 2012 - 3:37 PM

Just utter nonsense, again this is art not photography, there is a distinct difference, artists are mostly out of touch idiots that dont want to do a days work, photographers are people that enjoy capturing something they personally like.
The best part is that some of these pieces werent even 'photographed' by the "artist"
We shouldnt be able to read about this tosh let alone discuss it.....
This type of tat can be found in most local camera clubs each week with some idiotic judge banging on about his visionary opinion on it......

macroman
macroman  1115312 forum posts England
11 Jul 2012 - 3:39 PM

What on earth is going on?

No doubt that these 'photographers' swan around with top of the range Canon cameras and Lenses, when all they really need is a cheapo compact and Photoshop!

The mind boggles.

I must admit that I do like the Staircase pic by Rinko Kawauchi, (Untitled, from the series Illuminance, 2007) wth the ray of light shining down the centre, quite effective, link=http://www.guardian.co.uk/artanddesign/gallery/2012/jul/11/deutsche-borse-photography-prize-2012-in-pictures?intcmp=239#/?picture=392900776&index=3]HERE[/link]


but the rest..........Doh!

Last Modified By macroman at 11 Jul 2012 - 3:45 PM
answersonapostcard
answersonapostcard Site Moderator 1012520 forum postsanswersonapostcard vcard United Kingdom15 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 3:45 PM


Quote: No doubt that these 'photographers' swan around with top of the range Canon cameras and Lenses, when all they really need is a cheapo compact and Photoshop!


Not all, one only needed a pair of scissors and some pritt stick. Grin

mikehit
mikehit  46146 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
11 Jul 2012 - 3:45 PM

I thought the ones of the developer trays and the finger pushing the button were adverts first of all!


Quote: Maybe it actually shows how out of touch most of us really are.

I suppose that is the main conclusion...but I am still not sure what the remit of the competition actually is and comments on the BJP site posted (link posted by Cats_123) suggests I am not the only one.

macroman
macroman  1115312 forum posts England
11 Jul 2012 - 3:46 PM


Quote: What on earth is going on?

No doubt that these 'photographers' swan around with top of the range Canon cameras and Lenses, when all they really need is a cheapo compact and Photoshop!

The mind boggles.

I must admit that I do like the Staircase pic by Rinko Kawauchi, (Untitled, from the series Illuminance, 2007) wth the ray of light shining down the centre, quite effective,

HERE


but the rest..........Doh!

Edit: I don't know what I did but I seem to have reposted as a quote?

Last Modified By macroman at 11 Jul 2012 - 3:49 PM

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