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Quote: I was interested in the views of club and RPS people as they are likely to better more in the know and probably more skilled
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Quote: Do some people look down on flower photography?
Not if you take a peek at some of the images from this member they are stunning ...... Andreyanova
People look down on song writers who write simple love sons too. He just says
If you want to write a song about the moon
You want to write a spiritual tune
Then do it
Write a song about the moon
A friend of mine, a talented amateur, has stunning pictures of flowers. He freezes them in blocks of ice with dyes and all kinds of things I'd never think of - then photographs the results through the ice. Photographing flowers in situ has been done by so many people for so many years that it's difficult to put a new spin on it.
But if it pleases someone to do that, just do it. You can't please everyone so you'd better please yourself.
I wouldn't say that photographing flowers is necessarily an art, though, Ian. Done by an artist it can be but not of itself.
I guess you might call me a RPS type having got an L and going for an A. An A panel needs to be more specialised. I've got two possibilities: flowers and a local theme which would mainly or all BW. If there is a downer on flowers why make things hard for myself?
Two good pieces of advice I heard:
1. When you go for your Associateship, think back to the image in your Licentiate panel that drew the most favourable comments and ask yourself if you could use either the theme or the treatment as the starting point in the next stage.
2. Do take some sample prints along to an advisory day and get some feedback on them before selecting your panel.
I photograph anything and everything in nature, including flowers. I enjoy finding a solitary little flower amongst a mess of tangled bushes and clutter, it makes my day. I just got home from photographing waterfalls and rapids, long exposures even, and I got some shots of a freshly killed deer that must have been struck by a fast moving vehicle, it was in many pieces; all part of breaking down the big picture. Don't be influenced by other's likes and dislikes, it's a free world.
I put flower images in my panel for the RPS and they passed with flying colours..................so no I don't think people look down on flower photography, to photograph flowers is very skilled to get the best out of the subject, each genre requires different skills.
There will always be people who look down on certain things................only because they cannot achieve the desired result themselves........
Personally speaking i don't think any type of photography is below me infact i love all types of photography but i am better at say landscapes and wildlife than i am at flower shot or macro for example.
Does not mean i am a snob and shun the other types of photography, I would suggest that maybe a lot of people are of the same thinking as me.
No one can be great at every subject in photography and i know i am not, just means i admire people that do those types better than i.
find people more interesting than flowers
Quote: Find people more interesting than flowers
But no matter what the subject, a good photograph should stand out.
Unfortunately a lot of attention sometimes gets given to subjects or shots that seem exotic even if the quality isnt there. Not sure its snobbery as such, but sometimes a grab shot of a tribes person gets more credit than a well lit and creatively captured portrait of a 'normal' person, or a badly composed shot of an African landscape with a blurry elephant gets noticed over a great shot of a deer in the Scottish mountains. Thats not necessarily a club or RPS thing though
Flower photography is way more difficult than it looks, and the chances of getting the perfect flower in nature are relatively slim. We've all seen flower photos that we would admire, but I'm not convinced that they inspire us to go out and get a better shot than the one we are looking at?
Another point is that we probably gravitate toward whatever types of photography are available to us. I wouldn't mind spending a day or two photographing an ocean shoreline, but that's difficult on the Canadian Prairies. I grew up on the east coast of Canada and did my bush flying mostly around the coasts of Newfoundland and Labrador, where photo opportunities abound, but we now live 4000 miles from there. I have free travel passes for life for my wife and I, but after 40 years in the business, no thanks.
I have been doing my share of people photography lately, I just don't post it; it isn't set up studio stuff, just about all candid. I don't dislike it, but it doesn't give me the rush that a lucky nature shot does, that's my favourite. If I get a shot of something in nature that pleases me, then I'm inspired to learn about the subject, so it goes beyond photography. I was always interested in nature, long before I took up photographing it, so the draw was always there.
I've tried photographing flowers for the greetings card market
not that easy
Flower photography doesn't get much better than this.
Quote: Flower photography is way more difficult than it looks, and the chances of getting the perfect flower in nature are relatively slim
That's a significant part of taking plant portraits for publication - finding 'good samples'. You also gain a fairly comprehensive knowledge of scientific names, or at least are able to distinguish one genus from another when faced with a bunch of botanical labels! Often the enjoyment comes from the journey, and the education, as opined by Denny.
The problem in any genre comes when the photographer thinks a subject 'makes itself' and doesn't put enough thought into it. Even a flower picture that is only proficient might require some leveraging of technical skill or craftsmanship, but such subtleties often go unnoticed on photo forums.
or as I mentioned above, these Flowers
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