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KevSB 10 1.5k 5 United Kingdom
8 Apr 2012 9:11AM

Quote:I totally agree, fantastic computer skills.
Computer skills are the modern day Darkroom, no difference from the past in that regard

In the day those who did not have darkrooms complained about those who did, Slide film helped a little on the club scene and alowed two types of photography to run alongside each other

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ade_mcfade e2
10 15.1k 216 England
8 Apr 2012 9:18AM

Quote:photoshopping is no different to the dark room of yesteryear


indeed - I always sit in a dark room with a red light on, with lots of chemicals around me, when I'm photoshopping Wink


I started a thread on this subject and deliberately avoided mentioning EC/HC and EPZ - because it's not just on EPZ where you see the dominance of "shopped" images... tiz everywhere, every site, every competition... not fair to have a dig at EPZ for this alone. Try 500px if you want to see "shopped heaven" Wink

Actually... I got my first EC in ages with a non-shopped image of a little girl playing in a fountain... that was nice, a "real" photo getting recognition Smile Just did a mono conversion with Lightroom and didn't even open it up in Photoshop..


I think people can hit upon that "winning formula" - a blend of shooting and processing which works. I can think of 2 fantastic togs who get awards for virtually every shot from Salford Quays and the Welsh Coast, respectively. Is the difference between them and those who don't get awards mainly down to their prowess in Photoshop?

The only way to truly know is if they let someone process one of their RAW files and upload them....
franken e2
12 3.3k 4 Wales
8 Apr 2012 9:27AM
I can remember my photography teacher asking for images that are unreal. This was in the days of film.

I had a darkroom and processed all my own work. I photographed a local railway station I then photographed a bus outside of it.

I printed both images and carefully cut out the bus using a scalpel. I then thinned the underside of the edges of the bus so it sits better onto the railway station platform before gluing it onto the image. I then photographed the finished image and printed it. I got a 10 for that!

I and many others did a lot of manipulation in the days of film. Digital has made it easier and that's all.

Ken
SlowSong e2
6 4.8k 29 England
8 Apr 2012 9:34AM
Yes, solarisation, toning, bleaching, flashing, hand colouring, masking. Oh so much easier now, but I do miss the smells. Wink
Lowestoftis 4 33 3
8 Apr 2012 2:02PM
It's a shame there is no way of having a special section on here where people could just post their raw images on. I have now decided that I will upload my pics straight from the camera to here only using the crop and resize facility. I might win the new "Stubborn Old Sod Award."
ade_mcfade e2
10 15.1k 216 England
8 Apr 2012 2:09PM
the "before and after" option is useful for this

you may have to be E2 to use it though...

but it's a variation on the "version" theme
Lowestoftis 4 33 3
8 Apr 2012 3:12PM
Thanks for the info Ade. I think I'll just post untouched by photoshop software pics and see how I get on. It should make me think a bit more before pressing the camera shutter. A bit like the bad old days.
ade_mcfade e2
10 15.1k 216 England
8 Apr 2012 6:07PM
actually, I put some before and afters on facebook the other day... .

They're not complete, but just showed how far you can get with Lightroom 4 - before you delve into Photoshop
bricurtis e2
9 1.9k 48 England
9 Apr 2012 8:37PM

Quote:It's a shame there is no way of having a special section on here where people could just post their raw images on.


Don't get it - how are you going to upload a RAW image. !!!!
JJGEE 9 6.4k 18 England
9 Apr 2012 8:57PM

Quote:how are you going to upload a RAW image. !!!!


You upload it to the Downloads then people download it and process it.
Jestertheclown 6 6.6k 242 England
9 Apr 2012 9:01PM
Blimey!
I'd forgotten that that place existed!
answersonapostcard e2
10 12.7k 15 United Kingdom
9 Apr 2012 9:17PM
Perhaps its time for another RAW challenge Grin
bricurtis e2
9 1.9k 48 England
9 Apr 2012 9:20PM

Quote:how are you going to upload a RAW image. !!!!

You upload it to the Downloads then people download it and process it.


Thanks very much for the Link.
Jestertheclown 6 6.6k 242 England
9 Apr 2012 9:26PM

Quote:Perhaps its time for another RAW challenge Grin

Could be K.

That 'downloads' section is exactly the kind of backwater that I'm always moaning that I don't know exist.
A new challenge might remind a few people that it's still there and perhaps, inform a few others that have no knowledge of its existence.
answersonapostcard e2
10 12.7k 15 United Kingdom
9 Apr 2012 9:27PM
OK, I'll sort one out.Smile

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