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SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64534 forum postsSlowSong vcard England29 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jul 2013 - 12:27 PM


Quote: Maybe Cartier Bresson got where he is because we are told that his photos worked.

And he had access to some of the most important people and occasions of the age. Not many of us get that, and in his day there weren't too many photographers around so he probably got more acclaim than he may have deserved. Obviously he is a great photographer, but not every photograph he took was great.

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keithh
keithh e2 Member 1023174 forum postskeithh vcard Wallis and Futuna33 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jul 2013 - 12:42 PM

Nobody has ever claimed that he or anyone else took nothing but great photos but what gets forgotten is that so many of them were instigators and creators of new styles and fashions in photography.

joolsb
joolsb  927115 forum posts Switzerland38 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jul 2013 - 12:58 PM

It's a shame that there seems to be such widespread ignorance of the history of the medium....

SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64534 forum postsSlowSong vcard England29 Constructive Critique Points
23 Jul 2013 - 12:59 PM


Quote: Nobody has ever claimed that he or anyone else took nothing but great photos but what gets forgotten is that so many of them were instigators and creators of new styles and fashions in photography.

Yes, the ones that started it all off. It must be so difficult to be different these days.

joolsb
joolsb  927115 forum posts Switzerland38 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jul 2013 - 11:49 AM


Quote: It must be so difficult to be different these days.

It always is. That's why there are so few true innovators.

JJGEE
JJGEE  96340 forum posts England18 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jul 2013 - 4:21 PM


Quote: if your average person on the street saw a Cartier Bresson image they wouldnt look at it twice.

Well, it is nice to know that I am not an " average person " as I would certainly look twice or more at Cartier Bresson's images. Wink

SteveCharles
24 Jul 2013 - 4:36 PM

I would have just one of Bresson & Bailey's 'average snapshots' over a thousand pictures of an owl every time.

SlowSong
SlowSong e2 Member 64534 forum postsSlowSong vcard England29 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jul 2013 - 4:53 PM

Why an owl?
But I do agree, a thousand pictures of an owl would be tedious. Especially if it was the same one. Smile

SteveCharles
24 Jul 2013 - 5:42 PM


Quote: Why an owl?

It was a reference to the OP's oeuvre.

Andyphotography

@JJGEE.....would you look at Cartier Bressons work twice because you know it was taken by Cartier Bresson or just because you like the image????
@SteveCharles...why would you prefer a Cartier Bresson image....because yuo know it was taken by him or because you like his work????

Im not saying that all of his work was just a snap shot, but people shouldnt have to feel that they have to say his work is great just because he took the photograph.

Andyphotography

@ Steve Charles....I love birds of prey and evidently do a lot of other people Smile
The owl shots were my first attempt and not my oeuvreSmile

Last Modified By Andyphotography at 24 Jul 2013 - 5:47 PM
SteveCharles
24 Jul 2013 - 6:28 PM


Quote: why would you prefer a Cartier Bresson image....because yuo know it was taken by him or because you like his work????

I like most of Cartier-Bresson's work. If it was by someone else i still would. If you think HCB's work is just snapshots, in the derogatory sense, then you would probably hate Eggleston and Parr, whose work I personally probably like more than HCB's, if I actually considered such things on a scale, which I don't. The reason these photographers are well known, is because the work is good, it has depth. HCB was able to document the human condition with complete mastery of composition and timing, and pretty much invented small format photojournalism. What Keith wrote about Bailey is spot on. Obviously the genres are not to everyone's taste, but what is it exactly you don't like about their work?

keithh
keithh e2 Member 1023174 forum postskeithh vcard Wallis and Futuna33 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jul 2013 - 7:14 PM

To choose to denigrate the work of the man who invented photo journalism, a photographer to whom thousands owe their living and inspiration to. A first class bloody genius who had a better eye for a photo and an opportunity than any twenty you care to drag out of the bushes, shows a complete non understanding of the hobby you chose to inhabit.

Ade_Osman
Ade_Osman e2 Member 114521 forum postsAde_Osman vcard England36 Constructive Critique Points
24 Jul 2013 - 7:29 PM


Quote: To choose to denigrate the work of the man who invented photo journalism, a photographer to whom thousands owe their living and inspiration to. A first class bloody genius who had a better eye for a photo and an opportunity than any twenty you care to drag out of the bushes, shows a complete non understanding of the hobby you chose to inhabit.

Spot on Keith and you've put it far more succinctly than I ever could have done......

Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1315616 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
25 Jul 2013 - 1:39 AM


Quote: To choose to denigrate the work of the man who invented photo journalism

I always believed photo journalism was all ready around before HCB started working in it.

I always thought he had got into photo journalism to help make ends meet while he was an artist, that in turn lead him into the street photography that we all know him for today.

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