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lemmy
lemmy  71774 forum posts United Kingdom
17 May 2012 - 11:09 PM

Good point

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pentaxpete
21 May 2012 - 7:20 PM

Luxury! In my day, the cameras weighed 600kilos and film cost 500 a roll and 600 to process.

Lemmy : I used to get real film for 2 shillings and 10 pence a roll and my Ensign Selfix cost 24-10-3d -- where did you get that EXPENSIVE Film from ? ( and I did my own processing for about 1 Old Penny a roll in home-made developer -- as I still do now ! )

Carabosse
Carabosse e2 Member 1139392 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
21 May 2012 - 7:45 PM


Quote: used to get real film for 2 shillings and 10 pence a roll and my Ensign Selfix cost 24-10-3d

What that in today's money if you apply the RPI? Smile

keith selmes
21 May 2012 - 9:17 PM

Here is a picture of Lemmy with his 600 kilo camera, no wonder the film was so expensive
http://robroy.dyndns.info/lawrence/Images/mammoth-camera.jpg

Last Modified By keith selmes at 21 May 2012 - 9:18 PM
Paul Morgan
Paul Morgan e2 Member 1314978 forum postsPaul Morgan vcard England6 Constructive Critique Points
21 May 2012 - 9:35 PM

hehe and i thought is was this one Smile

http://www.filmsnotdead.com/2012/01/17/the-colossal-camera-that-will-capture-van...

lemmy
lemmy  71774 forum posts United Kingdom
21 May 2012 - 10:18 PM


Quote: Here is a picture of Lemmy with his 600 kilo camera, no wonder the film was so expensive

That was my Glossop Brothers Cameras Ltd, Oldham 'Eckyshot' which I used to use for paparazzi style candid street photography.

I had their 'Leviathon' model for studio and serious work where the GBCL Eckyshot's grain was too obvious due to the miniature 12x8 feet glass plate.

newfocus
newfocus  8644 forum posts United Kingdom2 Constructive Critique Points
22 May 2012 - 4:32 PM

Maybe it's time for an upgrade to one of these.

lemmy
lemmy  71774 forum posts United Kingdom
22 May 2012 - 8:05 PM


Quote: Maybe it's time for an upgrade to one of these.

3.2 gigapixels? If I wanted a point and shoot I'd buy one. On a sensor like that, your image would look pixelated on a 10x8 (metre) print viewed at 30cm. When I were a lad, we did prints like that for the family album.

Sooty_1
Sooty_1 Critique Team 41181 forum posts United Kingdom196 Constructive Critique Points
23 May 2012 - 12:17 AM

Missing the point a little, the zone system really doesn't work for chromogenic (C41) films as they don't push/pull processing in the same way as black and white (or E6 slide), therefore the idea of adjusting exposure vs dev time is not a linear exchange.

The old rule of thumb: push by 1 stop, increase dev time by 0.3, 2 stops by 0.7, 3 stops by 1.2 (therefore a 10 minute dev would equate to 13 mins, 17 mins or 22 mins for 1-, 2-, or 3-stop push).

When in doubt, clip test the first bit of the roll and adjust the dev for the rest to compensate.

We used to use Fuji 100 slide and push it to 400 ASA and adjust accordingly (it cleaned the whites up a treat). Pan F, FP4 and Tri-X used at native ASAs. Anything over 400ASA was exotic, and frankly gimmicky as the amount of golf-ball grain produced made the image grittier than Bruce Willis in a dirty vest, covered in tarmac.

Happy days....

Nick

lemmy
lemmy  71774 forum posts United Kingdom
23 May 2012 - 10:26 AM


Quote: as they don't push/pull processing in the same way as black and white

And not really necessary since you have a couple of stops leeway either way and can still get a usable result with adjustment in the printing.

keith selmes
26 May 2012 - 5:59 PM


Quote: In my day, the cameras weighed 600kilos and film cost 500 a roll

not any more ... ilford have raised their prices again ... 659.89 per roll now ... dratted decimalisation ... http://www.ag-photographic.co.uk/ortho-20x50-roll-2937-p.asp

Last Modified By keith selmes at 26 May 2012 - 5:59 PM
nickthompson
16 Jun 2012 - 9:34 PM

Finally managed to get out a take some shots using TRI-X 400. I kept the iso at 400. Sent the film off to Ilford and they've come back as I would expect. So it was me being a wally and altering the exposure via the iso. Thanks very much for your help and advice on this. I've just bought a Nikon FE, so I'll be shooting alot more film. (Now I know what to do!)
Nick

lemmy
lemmy  71774 forum posts United Kingdom
17 Jun 2012 - 12:23 AM

I hope you enjoy every minute of your journey into film Smile

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