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Fine Art


joolsb 10 27.1k 38 Switzerland
20 Dec 2012 8:50AM

Quote:Its her perception, and to her its real, but in reality, its olive.


Er, no. 'In reality' it is a part of the specturm of sunlight that the majority of people perceive as 'olive'. And then that's only because they know what a certain fruit is supposed to look like.

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mikehit e2
5 6.8k 11 United Kingdom
20 Dec 2012 9:38AM

Quote:'For me...' is opinion.


Exactly.
No-one has yet defined 'fine art' in terms that is not open to personal opinon (including yours), and the use of the term has drifted from what you or others may understand in its strictest (traditional) meaning.


Quote:So a projected image or reprint in a book or magazine means the original is no longer fine art?


Good question. If I as a punter went into a shop to by a 'fine art picture' expectations would include quality of mounting etc.Yet I can buy a 'fine art postcard'.
Go figure.
20 Dec 2012 10:08AM

Quote:'For me...' is opinion.

Exactly.
No-one has yet defined 'fine art' in terms that is not open to personal opinon (including yours), and the use of the term has drifted from what you or others may understand in its strictest (traditional) meaning.




I didnt offer an opinion (of fine art). I gave the definition by the OED, Glasgow School of Art and the artistic community. My only 'opinion' is that people are choosing to ignore information to suit their own opinions
Sooty_1 4 1.2k 202 United Kingdom
20 Dec 2012 10:48AM
I still have no problem with your definitions, the OED's or whoever, if it works for you, then fine. I just don't think the originator is the one who should decide whether something is fine art or not. We usually infer, whether you like it or not, that something 'fine art' is somehow better than just 'art'.
Monet never sold his pictures by claiming them as 'groundbreaking Impressionism' or anything like that, he painted and people either liked or disliked them.

The problem is, where does photography end and fine art photography start? Whether its pictorial, editorial, commercial or even abstract? How do you define something that has no apparent boundaries, and which anyone can call their work, regardless of its quality?
20 Dec 2012 10:55AM
Either way, the origin of the thread asks if anyone could offer the definition of fine art, not their opinion or whether there is such a thing or an individual's taste in art
Sooty_1 4 1.2k 202 United Kingdom
20 Dec 2012 1:41PM
Then I guess the answer is.....no, not definitively.
20 Dec 2012 1:59PM
Only if you choose to ignore or question the definition
Sooty_1 4 1.2k 202 United Kingdom
20 Dec 2012 4:58PM
I think the fact we are on the seventh page of argument would suggest we haven't reached a consensus!

It isn't me that has a problem with the definitions, but its funny that there are almost as many as there are sources.
20 Dec 2012 5:28PM
Just because the people in a thread haven't agreed on a definition does not mean there isn't one. Some here cant even agree there is such a thing as fine art, or confuse it with something else.

It's like the argument that man never landed on the moon. Many opinions and theories, but it doesn't mean the moon doesn't exist
Fishnet 10 5.0k 5 United Kingdom
20 Dec 2012 6:40PM
Sorry, I haven't read any replies on here, there are too many!! I'm just going to answer the OP, to me, a fine art photo is one that has some kind of artistic feel to it rather than just being a straight forward photo, whether that means it has been processed to actually look like a painting or whether the whole thing is a concept idea, to me it is an image that has strong artistic tendencies, something that you can hang on your wall and wouldn't look out of place in an art gallery rather than just a photo gallery.
Gaucho e2
12 2.3k 2 United Kingdom
20 Dec 2012 8:02PM
About as close as anyone is going to get Anna Smile Anyway, my daughter is a mighty fine artist and don't anyone say otherwise! Elisa McLeod
LVanDhal 2 126 1 United Kingdom
22 Dec 2012 9:37PM
I had a look Gaucho, They are beautiful Smile
Gaucho e2
12 2.3k 2 United Kingdom
22 Dec 2012 11:03PM
Thank you Liz. I'm biased of course, but she is beginning to make her way in what is a quite difficult career Grin

And for those who do not understand fine art, neither did I, but I am glad I made the effort.
Focus_Man 4 481 631 United Kingdom
23 Dec 2012 8:48AM
Looks like we should all just forget about it and go drink some 'Fine Wine'!
comma 6 101 6 United Kingdom
23 Dec 2012 11:11AM
I think its generally accepted that Fine Art is something where creativity and artistic intent are the overriding motives for its production, as opposed to art that is produced with a more functional perspective. Neither are mutually exclusive. I also dont believe when the phrase was coined, it was with any intent to be a statement regarding a piece of work's quality. imho, artistic quality is for the viewer, listener etc to discern. I think anybody can call their work fine art, whether it is appreciated or recognised as being a piece of high quality is an entirely different matter.

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