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Quote: Its her perception, and to her its real, but in reality, its olive.
Er, no. 'In reality' it is a part of the specturm of sunlight that the majority of people perceive as 'olive'. And then that's only because they know what a certain fruit is supposed to look like.
Quote: 'For me...' is opinion.
Exactly.
No-one has yet defined 'fine art' in terms that is not open to personal opinon (including yours), and the use of the term has drifted from what you or others may understand in its strictest (traditional) meaning.
Quote: So a projected image or reprint in a book or magazine means the original is no longer fine art?
Good question. If I as a punter went into a shop to by a 'fine art picture' expectations would include quality of mounting etc.Yet I can buy a 'fine art postcard'.
Go figure.
Quote: 'For me...' is opinion.
Exactly.
No-one has yet defined 'fine art' in terms that is not open to personal opinon (including yours), and the use of the term has drifted from what you or others may understand in its strictest (traditional) meaning.
I didnt offer an opinion (of fine art). I gave the definition by the OED, Glasgow School of Art and the artistic community. My only 'opinion' is that people are choosing to ignore information to suit their own opinions
I still have no problem with your definitions, the OED's or whoever, if it works for you, then fine. I just don't think the originator is the one who should decide whether something is fine art or not. We usually infer, whether you like it or not, that something 'fine art' is somehow better than just 'art'.
Monet never sold his pictures by claiming them as 'groundbreaking Impressionism' or anything like that, he painted and people either liked or disliked them.
The problem is, where does photography end and fine art photography start? Whether its pictorial, editorial, commercial or even abstract? How do you define something that has no apparent boundaries, and which anyone can call their work, regardless of its quality?
Either way, the origin of the thread asks if anyone could offer the definition of fine art, not their opinion or whether there is such a thing or an individual's taste in art
Only if you choose to ignore or question the definition
Just because the people in a thread haven't agreed on a definition does not mean there isn't one. Some here cant even agree there is such a thing as fine art, or confuse it with something else.
It's like the argument that man never landed on the moon. Many opinions and theories, but it doesn't mean the moon doesn't exist
Sorry, I haven't read any replies on here, there are too many!! I'm just going to answer the OP, to me, a fine art photo is one that has some kind of artistic feel to it rather than just being a straight forward photo, whether that means it has been processed to actually look like a painting or whether the whole thing is a concept idea, to me it is an image that has strong artistic tendencies, something that you can hang on your wall and wouldn't look out of place in an art gallery rather than just a photo gallery.
About as close as anyone is going to get Anna
Anyway, my daughter is a mighty fine artist and don't anyone say otherwise! Elisa McLeod
I think its generally accepted that Fine Art is something where creativity and artistic intent are the overriding motives for its production, as opposed to art that is produced with a more functional perspective. Neither are mutually exclusive. I also dont believe when the phrase was coined, it was with any intent to be a statement regarding a piece of work's quality. imho, artistic quality is for the viewer, listener etc to discern. I think anybody can call their work fine art, whether it is appreciated or recognised as being a piece of high quality is an entirely different matter.
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