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    ENGLISHSKIN
    5 Apr 2013 - 12:11 PM

    hi, i'm looking to get extra reach on a budget. At the moment i'm using a D800 with the 70-200 2.8 but its not enough for the sports events i do ( football, rugby and motocross ) I can't afford the 'big' lenses so was looking for another way Smile The ways i have come up with is are ; an x2 extender - Sigma 150-500 - 300 f4 or just keep saving for a second hand Sigma 300 f2.8. Any thoughts please ?

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    llareggub
    llareggub  4677 forum posts United Kingdom
    5 Apr 2013 - 1:02 PM

    A 1.4X extender will put you out at 280 f4 depending upon the 70-200 you have then the drop in quality is not meant to be to bad, 2X extenders have a much bigger hit in terms of quality from my research... I don't really know a great deal about the Nikon "farm" of lenses but Canon has a couple of offerings in the 400mm range that I am sure Nikon have a competitor for though in the 100-400 and 400mm f5.6.

    I looked at the sigma and don't think it is gonna be great for sports although I have seen a few nice motorsports tracking shots from it I think it would struggle with football and rugby. the Sigma 120-300 OS f2.8 gets good reviews but is beyond my budget at the moment but it will probably be my next purchase coupled with a 1.4 TC Smile

    cameracat
    cameracat  108578 forum posts Norfolk Island61 Constructive Critique Points
    5 Apr 2013 - 1:12 PM

    Avoid a 2X telecon, With a half decent 70-200 a 1x4 or 1x7 from Nikon would be a better option all round.

    Either of those would have far better resale value, If at a later date you go down the bigger lens route....Grin

    mikehit
    mikehit  56297 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
    5 Apr 2013 - 1:21 PM

    How much 'extra reach' do you want/need? And how much are you willing to spend waiting to afford the 300mm f2.8? Does this need to be coupled with superior AF speed and/or focus tracking ability?
    The Sigma 120-400 seems to get a better press than the 150-500 on some birding forums which (because of the demands on the lens, I find these good practical guides for long lenses).

    ENGLISHSKIN
    5 Apr 2013 - 1:26 PM

    Have been edging towards an extender as its the cheapest option Smile Just never had the chance to use one Sad Was talking to a 'pro' at the greyhounds last week who was using a Canon 600mm with a 1.4 extender. He showed me his shots on the back of his camera, to say i was impressed would be an understatement !! lol. Think i'll give a 1.7 a try. Thanks

    mikehit
    mikehit  56297 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
    5 Apr 2013 - 2:18 PM

    With the quality of the D800, I think you will be able to get 280mm with 1.4tc then crop by 50% in each dimension (to get 25% of the image area) to get 500mm+ and still be able to easily print to A3.

    JackAllTog
    JackAllTog e2 Member 53579 forum postsJackAllTog vcard United Kingdom58 Constructive Critique Points
    5 Apr 2013 - 3:52 PM

    Hi Lee, if you don't go to too many events then would renting a lens be an option for just the times you need it?

    colin beeley
    colin beeley e2 Member 111070 forum postscolin beeley vcard England10 Constructive Critique Points
    5 Apr 2013 - 5:22 PM

    why would you need a 600mm plus a 1.4 at the dogs ?

    mikehit
    mikehit  56297 forum posts United Kingdom9 Constructive Critique Points
    5 Apr 2013 - 5:26 PM

    Shitzu racing?

    brian1208
    brian1208 e2 Member 1110227 forum postsbrian1208 vcard United Kingdom12 Constructive Critique Points
    5 Apr 2013 - 5:33 PM


    Quote: Shitzu racing?

    I shan't be able to shake that image out of my mind for a while Mike, I'd love to see that Grin

    Carabosse
    Carabosse e2 Member 1139395 forum postsCarabosse vcard England269 Constructive Critique Points
    5 Apr 2013 - 8:47 PM

    Smile




    LenShepherd
    LenShepherd e2 Member 62450 forum postsLenShepherd vcard United Kingdom
    6 Apr 2013 - 9:49 PM

    Right now the most affordable option is a Kenko Pro 300 1.4 X - it will give you decent quality, 280mm equivalent and reasonable AF speed
    It costs a a lot less than a 300mm f4 prime lens and retains the advantage of a zoom lens for your type of sports photography.
    Most professional football photographers seem to use a 70-200 plus a 400mm f2.8 - well above most peoples budget.
    Switching the lens between the D800 and a D7100 in 1.3 crop mode gives 15 MP, 400mm equivalent angle of view, no loss of AF speed, and AF points across the entire width of the picture area.
    I hear some prps are seriously looking at a second 70-200 on a D7100 body to avoid the cost of the 400 f2.8.

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