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Has the law changed or have we changed?


20 Oct 2011 11:56AM

Quote:Where we you when we were doing the fish puns, Jas? (Or is that a little too close to home Mr S?


Did all them on here about 6 or 7 years ago, CB! Smile

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keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
20 Oct 2011 12:02PM
That was a hake of a long time ago
pabloisme 4 566 England
20 Oct 2011 12:08PM

Quote:Where we you when we were doing the fish puns, Jas? (Or is that a little too close to home Mr S? Wink)


someone once told me to cod off or it might have been sod he was eating chips at the time!
pabloisme 4 566 England
20 Oct 2011 12:10PM

Quote:Did all them on here about 6 or 7 years ago, CB! Smile


thought goldfish had memory spans of 60 secs

what were we talking abaaat?
loweskid 13 2.0k 1 United Kingdom
20 Oct 2011 1:44PM
At the risk of getting back on topic....

Quote:Also schools are famous for stories of banning conker fights on the grounds of HS


The conker myth - http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/september.htm

"Myth: there are now more regulations and red tape than ever.
Truth: there were more than twice as many health and safety regulations and laws 35 years ago than there are today. The legislation that remains is now generally simpler and easier to understand."

Source - http://www.tuc.org.uk/workplace/tuc-12559-f0.cfm
pabloisme 4 566 England
20 Oct 2011 2:13PM
Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms/etc. Chairperson, a point of order:


Quote:At the risk of getting back on topic....


but in the old days you just did the job, no "faffng" about.

the "I was supplied with the wrong ladder" (a crap, insulting, ambulance chaser, solicitor's TV ad )

cos you secured the blinking thing properly, because you learnt from the old boys NO?

we dont train anybody now so the point is invalid!

and conkers could be used instead of serious weapons,

and just to really get off topic the hoary old ban hand guns did well did it not?

NOW ONLY OUTLAWS HAVE GUNS!

ps Grin
oldblokeh 3 920 United Kingdom
20 Oct 2011 2:22PM

Quote:
but in the old days you just did the job, no "faffng" about.

the "I was supplied with the wrong ladder" (a crap, insulting, ambulance chaser, solicitor's TV ad )

cos you secured the blinking thing properly, because you learnt from the old boys NO?

we dont train anybody now so the point is invalid!

ps Grin



In the old days you were a damn sight more likely to be killed or injured:

For injuries, between 1974 and 2010:
the number of fatal injuries to employees fell by 84%;
the rate of fatal injury (per 100 000 employees) fell by 83%;
the number of reported non-fatal injuries fell by 75%;

Still want to go back to the old days? I don't. I remember was it was like working in a chemical plant back in 1974. I'm really glad things have improved.
mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
20 Oct 2011 3:16PM

Quote:Also schools are famous for stories of banning conker fights on the grounds of HS

The conker myth - http://www.hse.gov.uk/myth/september.htm




Apparently the head teacher at that school had had H&S inspection at his school and he was frustrated with their edicts. So he ordered the kids to wear safety goggles to illustrate how you could turn good legislation to ridiculous extremes then he called the press to publicise his stunt.
brrttpaul 3 203 United Kingdom
20 Oct 2011 5:04PM
the number of employes fell by 84% also though lol. On a serious note you are talking when factories were at full capacity there were mines, docks steelworks etc. we had hoovers that employed 5000 people in merthyr in 74 doubt theres 30 working there now, and then theres god knows how many that worked in the mines, so yes i still want to look at the old days.
strawman 11 22.0k 16 United Kingdom
20 Oct 2011 5:08PM
That world has gone, and its not bad news that. By all means we could go back to the old days, and wages will go down further and the cost of goods up and people will have shorter lives, well the workers will. Perhaps that is what is going to happen when the economy sorts itself out. Its not an attractive vision.
tomcat e2
9 6.2k 15 United Kingdom
27 Oct 2011 8:27PM

Quote:as far as im concearned the cscs card is nothing more than a scam


The idea of it, is to prove that you are safe to be let loose on a construction site & know the basic rules.
It is not just your well being that is in question, it is also that of your fellow workers.

Under 18 year old workers, without a Young persons risk assessment, are the same.
They do not know the basic rules & why should they.
Providing it is all correctly implemented, then they too, can work on all major construction sites (This by the way, is the law)


Quote:if you dont do it then down the road you go, an i have worked for all the major house builders an they all the same


On this I would agree.
They all (house builders) preach a good H & S standard, but very rarely adhere to it.

They let the industry down
pabloisme 4 566 England
28 Oct 2011 8:05AM
you are 100% rite brrttpaul: but few see it!

hold on we are all talking about factories and people working in job's JOB's WE DONT DO THAT NOW do we?
for a NOW welcoming 48 hours a week graft! (god that was a shock when you were 15!)

now for most its 16 hours a week, in a supermarket or similar...........

and for the rest of us muppets who have learnt new skills, it's 70+ tied to work by new comms, (even when you are on holiday!) email on the phone, laptops, VPN conference meetings argggggh

god bring back the good old days!

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