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    Photogeek
    12 Feb 2012 - 11:00 AM
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    It wasn't just Greece that conned it's way in, They had to alter the 'membership rules' right at the beginning or France wouldn't have qualified.

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    12 Feb 2012 - 11:46 AM
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    Quote: I kind of think the best thing for Greece would be to default...

    I agree. It would get everything out into the open and show the situation for what it really is. Perhaps then Greece could begin to approach matters for the way that they are rather than trying to dodge the inevitable.

    thewilliam
    12 Feb 2012 - 12:36 PM
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    If Greece defaults, there isn't much that credititors can do about it.

    The days of sending gunboats are long gone. Many multinational companies are bigger and more powerful than the majority of governments so their assets would be safe from the international bailiffs.

    It's about time for Argentina to default again. I wonder whether this is why they're looking greedily at the Malvinas Islands again - now that oil has been discovered.

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    mikehit
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    12 Feb 2012 - 9:35 PM
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    I think it is ironic that you could trace this all the way back to Germany at the start of the Euro. The bureaucrats realised that France and Gemany did not meet the proposed rules on debt as % GDP and told them this. The German and French politicians realised that if they imposed the financial measures needed to meet this requirement they would have protests and probably be thrown out of power - so the politicians told the bureaucrats to mind their own business. Once that happened it was a free-for-all because there was no way Germany/ France could tell Greece, Italy et al to behave because what they were doing was no different.
    Now Greece has to tackle the protests that Germany wanted to avoid.

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    answersonapostcard (Site Moderator)
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    13 Feb 2012 - 7:39 AM
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    What I find ironic is that Europe has a strangle hold on business through red tape and yet when it comes to running the Euro they change the rules to suit themselves. It was all bound to catch up with them in the end.

    You cannot have a single currency unless you have a single political and economic policy. How on earth can it be right that a Greek can retire on a pension at 54 and a German at 65 - just one example - it cannot add up in the long term. income tax in Greece is seen as 'optional' ............. and now The EU Euro and UK are paying for it.

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