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Health and Safety at Weddings !


mikehit e2
5 7.1k 11 United Kingdom
9 Aug 2013 1:41PM

Quote:Thanks all for the comments and information, though i am left a little unsure how much further forward we are !




No further than halfway down the first page, really. Apply commonsense and be aware that you are (for the most part) in control, with all the pros and cons that brings with it, and Sod's Law is a good reference guide.

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thewilliam 6 4.8k
9 Aug 2013 3:17PM
Mostly, a Risk Assessment will attract no more than a cursory glance, but in the event of a serious accident with likely total compensation up in the millions, you can be sure that the RA will be scrutinized very carefully indeed.

Whereas our PL insurer would pay the civil compensation award and legal costs, any fine resulting from an HSE prosecution would come from our own pockets.

A few years back, baby photography in a multiple studio hadn't been properly thought out and a baby fell from desk height onto a hard floor. The studio manager was fined something like a year's pay because the risks hadn't been managed and mitigated. A good RA works better than armour-plated underwear!

Quote:Whereas our PL insurer would pay the civil compensation award and legal costs, any fine resulting from an HSE prosecution would come from our own pockets.


Anymore than our car insurers would pay our speeding fines Smile
llareggub 4 756 United Kingdom
9 Aug 2013 5:35PM

Quote:A few years back, baby photography in a multiple studio hadn't been properly thought out and a baby fell from desk height onto a hard floor. The studio manager was fined something like a year's pay because the risks hadn't been managed and mitigated. A good RA works better than armour-plated underwear!


When you say a few years back you mean longer than 5, there has not been a single prosecution by the HSE against a photographer in the last 5 years. It is possible to go back longer but I can not be bothered searching!
thewilliam 6 4.8k
9 Aug 2013 8:19PM
One of the problems with getting older is that something that we think happened last month did in fact happen last year.

This incident was well publicized at the time and,because the sentence was particularly savage, the MPA sent a circular to all members of the Cherubs scheme . This is how I learned of it.
Snapper 9 3.8k 3 United States Outlying Islands
9 Aug 2013 8:48PM

Quote:A few years back, baby photography in a multiple studio hadn't been properly thought out and a baby fell from desk height onto a hard floor. The studio manager was fined something like a year's pay because the risks hadn't been managed and mitigated. A good RA works better than armour-plated underwear!

When you say a few years back you mean longer than 5, there has not been a single prosecution by the HSE against a photographer in the last 5 years. It is possible to go back longer but I can not be bothered searching!



Prosecutions are also brought by Environmental Health officers and their enforcement will not be recorded on the HSE website. It's far more likely that a photo studio will come under Environmental Health than HSE, so I don't know how you could find out about this incident.
llareggub 4 756 United Kingdom
9 Aug 2013 9:30PM

Quote:A few years back, baby photography in a multiple studio hadn't been properly thought out and a baby fell from desk height onto a hard floor. The studio manager was fined something like a year's pay because the risks hadn't been managed and mitigated. A good RA works better than armour-plated underwear!

When you say a few years back you mean longer than 5, there has not been a single prosecution by the HSE against a photographer in the last 5 years. It is possible to go back longer but I can not be bothered searching!

Prosecutions are also brought by Environmental Health officers and their enforcement will not be recorded on the HSE website. It's far more likely that a photo studio will come under Environmental Health than HSE, so I don't know how you could find out about this incident.



I would love you to try and provide some details as to how that would happen, if you are going to engage in a conversation you should at least make sure you have even the slightest idea what you are talking about.

It's not like you need to try hard to find out where the Environmental Health Department currently sits in terms of the UK authoritative structure, type it into Google and every day of the week you come up with the Food Standards Agency!
llareggub 4 756 United Kingdom
9 Aug 2013 9:50PM
Local authorities have Environmental health services and the health and safety aspects of those feed directly into the legislative body, which is the HSE and they are the prosecuting body and as such all prosecutions will appear on the HSE database!

The register of convictions is freely available for all http://www.hse.gov.uk/prosecutions/
Snapper 9 3.8k 3 United States Outlying Islands
9 Aug 2013 11:15PM

Quote:Local authorities have Environmental health services and the health and safety aspects of those feed directly into the legislative body, which is the HSE and they are the prosecuting body and as such all prosecutions will appear on the HSE database!

The register of convictions is freely available for all http://www.hse.gov.uk/prosecutions/



That is the list of cases taken by HSE. The LAs take their own cases and their figures can be accessed via the HSE website at the links on this page.

There's more information on the LA role in this book for councillors.
keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
24 Oct 2013 1:08PM
Don't forget that the CRB cert is now gone and you still can't DBS yourself (the replacement) and by law you still don't require one as a wedding photographer.

Only today I read a wedding photographers website (EPZ member) where they advise people not to book a photographer without one.

Shameful use of scare tactics.
ade_mcfade e2
10 15.1k 216 England
24 Oct 2013 2:15PM
....go one, who is it Wink
keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
24 Oct 2013 2:19PM
Should take a half decent detective about five mintues to track down Wink its there still to see
pulsar69 10 1.6k 6 United Kingdom
24 Oct 2013 3:00PM
Theres quite a few wedding photographers on here Wink might take a while !
keithh e2
11 23.4k 33 Wallis And Futuna
24 Oct 2013 3:05PM
Well I did say half decent.Wink I was prompted to look. Isnt hard to work out.
pulsar69 10 1.6k 6 United Kingdom
24 Oct 2013 3:16PM
Lol thanks Keith. I will put the new career on hold.

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