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This is me you are talking to , not a 14 year old who is not looking for your justification of your own workflow.
Thats why you need to see the world through her eyes if you are ever going to be a mentor..
If not , dont impose your experience on her , at her age , the magic of discovery is far more important than the golden ratio an all that kak
That comes later .
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Are we reading the same thread? Nick has already said that he might not be the best tutor for her.
Quote: At the moment she doesn't know what she wants to take pictures of, but one things for sure they won't be like Dads (she hates my stuff).
It is her responsibility as a teenager to do quite the opposite of anything you do, and she will probably be 25 before admitting that she has always admired your work - basic parent/child(teenager) psycholgy
Wait until she asks you for advice, and when she does, be prepared to show her in practical photography terms exactly what you are explaining - using analogies that she can relate to.
Oh yes - dont expect thanks or credit, as she will have discovered it for herself . Again that will come later.
Keith's right, I'm too impatient to be a good tutor, of course I will give advice if requested, but I think the book idea will suit her - in many ways she's too similar to me in that respect.
I don't want to impose my values on her, I've never done that with anything, so won't start now, she much prefers a reasoned discussion / argument.
That's why I want to get Elements, put it on her laptop and leave her to it.
Quote: Is there any good resources to teach the basics on photography (aperture, shutter speed, even I know ISOWould be too much to start with
There is a litle program which has been featured here in the past (damned if I can find it) which gives practical demonstrations of the effect each setting has. Very good for learning the basics of exposure controls.
Quote: There is a litle program which has been featured here in the past (damned if I can find it) which gives practical demonstrations of the effect each setting has. Very good for learning the basics of exposure controls.
Here you go..
It seems to have moved on a bit since I looked at it last....it's got a moving image in the 'viewfinder' window now.
And it seems that its available as an app...
I think elements is great, the only reason i finally went for PS was for 16 not 8 bit processing, some of the extra brushes and liquidfy. But in fact as as a early learning photographer maybe she is better with no software at all.
Because your so far above her in photography knowledge you rightly want to give her everything at once, but she can't become you within a year.
I've give her a fixed 50mm lens and tell her to spend a week getting two good example of the extremes of depth of feild - nothing more.
I'd also tell her that there would be no image editing, external lighting for 6 months.
have a look at the camera simulator you can see the effect of changing aperture, shutter speed etc
oops - nikLg beat me to it........................
Thanks guys really helpfull
Actually, that's not the program I was thinking about but it's still very good.
AH this is the one I saw originally.
Similar idea, but a different way of showing the effects.
. . . and here's yet another.
Quote: At the moment she doesn't know what she wants to take pictures of
just had 4 of those on a workshop today Nick
start by just walking them around Leeds, pointing stuff out, having a chat with them and showing them stuff - the spotting what gets their interest and guide them that way.... could you do something like that ? proper casual like - none of this waiting for ages for the right light, more instinctive - do what you can with what's there at the moment.
if nothing else, it raises questions (how do I to that?..... ) and shows them stuff they may have walked past normally.
my group will never see puddles in the same way again
Great point Aid, actually been doing that today, and hadn't read your post ( tho not Leeds ).
carrot rather than stick
some very cool down-spouts in Leeds, had them shooting those.... which got odd reactions from passers by
I was really impressed, she has some I would be more than happy with, the compositione were really good, with no guidance at all (tho I set the aperture etc, banged it on av for her), she even borrowed mine which is a bit of a heavy brute for small hands, and her hand holding technique was excellent (bracing lens etc), no guidance, from me.
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