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    jon.s
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    5 Mar 2003 - 6:29 PM
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    when on av mode how can i tell if te picture will be over/under exposed? the exposure level does not tell me! so how do i know? and finally is it okay using the av mode on the lowest "f number" (large aperture) as this gives me a sharp subject(in my case the rallycar) and a blurred backround? or is there any better settings/methods for this type of photography?

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    5 Mar 2003 - 6:42 PM
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    When you set a AV aperture-priority mode you then select an aperture and the camera adjusts the shutter speed to what it thinks is the correct exposure. Cameras can be fooled. You are right to use a wide aperture to ensure a fast action freezing shutter speed, unless you want to have a go at panning. Then it's better to set the shutter speed in TV mode.
    Have a look at our article on panning.

    jon.s
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    8 Mar 2003 - 3:19 PM
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    Is my setting on full manual mode okay? it is shutter speed=1/250 aperture=4.5/5.6, using the lens on manual (i pre focus onto something before the car comes)is this any good for this type of fast photography? which is better manual mode or av mode?

    jon.s
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    8 Mar 2003 - 3:19 PM
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    Is my setting on full manual mode okay? it is shutter speed=1/250 aperture=4.5/5.6, using the lens on manual (i pre focus onto something before the car comes)is this any good for this type of fast photography? which is better manual mode or av mode? i will be using either a 200 or 400 iso film

    J-P
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    9 Mar 2003 - 12:16 AM
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    Well surely it depends on the light level. 1/250th at 5.6 will be fine if the scene requires 1/250th at 5.6

    If it's a bright sunny day and using ISO 400, then I'd guess it's be totally overexposed.

    Jon

    If it were me, I'd probably go for shutter priority and try panning to follow the cars

    Just my 0.02 worth

    (and J-P, A bright sunny day ?? in the UK ?? surely you jest heh)

    It's impossible to answer what exposure to use for a subject as it depends on the light conditions on a particular day. Good action shots require a sharp subject and a blured background.
    Trying to freeze action by using high shutter speeds and fast film will not create the result you require. Most pros shooting high speed action use a slow shutter speed to give maximum depth of field and blur the background by panning with the subject. The viewpoint in your photos is too head on and it does not convey movement.
    You also need a film which will give saturated colour, as they seem to be a little washed out and too grainy. Try Fuji NPC160 and practice panning.

    Jeff

    jon.s
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    11 Mar 2003 - 6:21 PM
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    all your advice is sound i have had not much time recently as i've been a very bussy boy! i will upload more photos on the 17/18 of march as i'm doing an tarmac rally on the 16 of march and you will be the first to see the pics. that's the other thing How do i do GCSE photography as my school dose not do this?, How do i go around a Modern Apprenticeship with photography?In my local college they do courses:- city & guilds, BTEC national awards, and degrees. are any of these any good? and have anyone tried them? I have found out lots more on my career of photography lately.
    cheers all.

    jon.s
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    12 Mar 2003 - 7:36 PM
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    if i want to capture a car in the air (about 2 meters) what should i set the camera up for? any advice, does anyone know anything about my previous post?

    GoodbyeAll
    12 Mar 2003 - 7:42 PM
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    Have you tried buying (or borrowing) a book on the subject? You are trying to cram a lifetime's knowledge into a few lines of text. Good sports photography takes years to perfect. Try a few rolls at different settings and see what happens. Make notes, slow down a bit, learn your craft!

    Wendy

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    12 Mar 2003 - 11:16 PM
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    To capture the car in the air, firstly find a spot where they will be in the air, next set up as you would for a normal shot. Then you have to rely on a little luck, you will probably need to start to press the shutter release just as the cars are leaving the ground, this may take a few attempts to get right, but I'm sure it will look great when you get it flat out and mid flight.
    I look forward to seeing the pictures, so don't forget to post them.
    Matt

    J-P
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    13 Mar 2003 - 12:38 AM
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    You're going to need at least 1/1000th sec to freeze the action of a high speed car mid air.

    Given that you'll probably be using at least f 5.6, you'll probably need ISO 400-1600 depending on lighting. Prefocus, shoot on continuous, and ensure you're batteries are fresh and have spares.

    jon.s
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    13 Mar 2003 - 7:12 PM
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    i am doing the event sunay so give me til tuesday to get them on here. Do any of you have any experience of rallying/motorsports photography? if so what's the best tips you can share with me? But really i suppose some photos are hit and misses aren't they?

    Jeff Russell
    13 Mar 2003 - 11:03 PM
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    If two photographers where to be given the same task to carry out they would both take different kit, use different film and use different techniques. There is no way of saying what speed, what aperture or what film to use because a whole host of variations can be used to capture a shot.
    It depends on the light, the weather, and the location. Every type of photography is hit and miss, that is what makes it fun. Unless someone is paying for it, then it's panic.
    Practice, and as you get used to your subject, your hit rate will increase. Pros used to burn rolls of film taking sport photographs before digital came on the scene. Don't worry about using film, after all it's only money.
    Pick vantage points used by professionals, and watch were they go during an event. If it's good for them it will be good for you.

    I've also recently become interested in rally photography after my partner has started stage rallying and taken me along to events. I've been playing around with B+W and on my first (and only) trip out got a few good pictures. The best being an (unitentionally) blurred shot of a Purgeot 205. I found alot of them came out very stagnent and the cars may as well of been parked for the effect I got. Has anyone got any other tips that would help me get more dramatic shots. I want to try things like panning but don't really know what I'm doing. Thanks :o)

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