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    quinny
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    22 Feb 2010 - 8:49 PM
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    Can anyone help me. I need to do a Hockney style joiner, I have taken the images already but now realise that maybe I haven't taken enough front on images to be able to join them.

    I have tried to to follow the video tutorial on this but it isn't working. Can anyone suggest another way I can do this? I am on a mac and using Photoshop CS4 (unsuccessfully as a beginner).

    Last Modified By quinny at 22 Feb 2010 - 8:50 PM
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    NickParry
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    22 Feb 2010 - 10:24 PM
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    The key here is that Hockey used Polaroid for his joiners. Perhaps trying to replicate them in the digital darkroom would not be true to the initial technique of Hockney.

    I did a few joiners many years ago, but did them the way Hockney did, and had each seperate image in print form, and mounted them on board.

    Nick Smile

    Pete
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    22 Feb 2010 - 10:30 PM
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    Which video and which bit of the video do you get stuck on?
    In a few lines as a forum posts, you copy each image and paste them onto a canvas, large enough to have them arranged how you want. Resize each image using the transform tool and position them roughly where you want them to be. Each one is on a new layer so you can move them independently. Use the transform to rotate and put some at slightly jaunty angles. Make sure some areas overlap and some don't so it has a random feel. Use the drop shadow feature to add a slightly raised feel.
    Hope that helps

    quinny
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    22 Feb 2010 - 10:33 PM
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    We've got to put it in our workbook so that is why we wanted to do it digitally because of the lack of space available. I just don't know how to go about having a blank page and adding images and resizing them.

    Pete
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    22 Feb 2010 - 10:41 PM
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    Well for your book create a blank canvas in Photoshop it's File>New
    And set the following (assuming you're putting it in an A4 book) Just change measurement of appropriate size of workbook and leave the rest as illustrated.

    new.jpg

    Then open your pictures one by one and do the following
    Ctrl + A (select all) ctrl + C (copy) on the individual pic,
    Followed by crtl +v (paste) on the new canvas.

    When each pic is pasted go to Edit>Transform>Scale and adjust to the appropriate size on the canvas.
    Use the move tool to reposition.
    If you have worked out how big the little pics need to be you can just resize befoe you copy and paste to save time using the transform tool.

    Last Modified By Pete at 22 Feb 2010 - 10:43 PM
    quinny
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    23 Feb 2010 - 11:08 PM
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    I'll give this a go. Thanks very much for your help.

    quinny
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    24 Feb 2010 - 7:52 AM
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    It was a video done by Gavin Hoey. I did everything it said but then it came up with something like some couldn't be joined. I think we didn't take enough front facing pictures and too many at different angles (ie underneath, overhead, left and right).

    Think it's probably best we start from scratch with this one.

    cats_123
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    24 Feb 2010 - 8:03 AM
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    have yiou tried `Googling' David Hockney Photography (Videos). There are several tuition style videos on there. e.g. David Hockney Tutorial

    montechoro
    24 Feb 2010 - 8:39 AM
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    Quote: The key here is that Hockney used Polaroid for his joiners.
    I did a few joiners many years ago, but did them the way Hockney did, and had each seperate image in print form, and mounted them on board.

    Nick Smile

    As well as Polaroids, Hockney also used 35mm for his joiners and had them processed at the local supermarket.

    Mistakes made in the print process, warning labels on prints and tips about exposure from the labs sometimes also found their way into his work.

    Good luck with the joiners they are fun to work with.

    Remember Hockney did not want his joiners to be perfect - he sought to present the viewer with a representation of what he saw.

    He also sometimes included his own feet in his joiner images.

    NikLG
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    24 Feb 2010 - 2:13 PM
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    Quote: I haven't taken enough front on images to be able to join them

    Surely that's half the appeal of such things ? that they aren't perfect ? If you want them all to join up seamlessly that's more of a panorama than the sort of thing that Hockney does / did....

    NickParry
    NickParry (Critique Team)
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    24 Feb 2010 - 4:55 PM
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    Try this too for creating polaroids:

    http://poladroid.en.softonic.com/

    Nick Smile

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