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    CaptivePhotons
    CaptivePhotons (e2 Member)
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    11 Feb 2012 - 9:22 PM
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    Quote: Us ?, self proclaimed spokesperson for the masses now. This thread was intended to shed light on the difficulties of running a business and when to invest in new equipment and to ask others their opinions, do you have something to add to the thread?

    I was responding to an assertion that you made in an open forum that I believe to be false, ergo you invited comments.

    Instead of stating your evidence to back up your assertion you came back with a comment that was neither insightful, helpful or reasoned.

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    MrGoatsmilk
    11 Feb 2012 - 10:11 PM
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    Here we go FIGHT outside the school gates GrinGrinGrinGrin

    pulsar69
    11 Feb 2012 - 10:18 PM
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    lol ! , its been a long day Im off to bed

    jimthistle73
    11 Feb 2012 - 10:28 PM
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    Wow! Some people are easily offended! I don't reckon pulsar said anything untoward really, and I also don't believe that any (sensible) wedding photographer has anything against part timers, so long as they pay their taxes and contribute to the greater good of the industry by keeping standards up.

    Sadly though, there are those who do not and that's what pulsar was referring to.

    Anyhoo, I've been looking very closely at the latest offerings from Nikon and FWIW, I came to the conclusion that my D300s are still OK for the meantime, given the fantastic noise reduction offered by Lightroom. Sure I'd love a brace of D800s, but really can't justify the cost.

    Eastlands
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    11 Feb 2012 - 10:33 PM
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    [quote]Wow! Some people are easily offended! I don't reckon pulsar said anything untoward really, and I also don't believe that any (sensible) wedding photographer has anything against part timers, so long as they pay their taxes and contribute to the greater good of the industry by keeping standards up.

    Methinks the pros don't like the part timers because they want the income revenue to themselves, Wink

    JackAllTog
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    11 Feb 2012 - 10:35 PM
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    Quote: What are other canon wedding togs thinking at the moment ?

    I'd like to know (I'm not a weekend warier) but do aspire to learn from the talented and the business minded.
    I bet tests like the DXO mark one's will be interesting.
    I also expect a few businesses might even hire a body for a few days testing before actually buying.
    We also expect Canon to keep its cards very close to its chest until the next release - Will it be a 5D mk3, a 5Dx, or a video body?

    The most valid point so far is that a new camera does not make an old one suddenly worthless - i follow in awe some one here who shoots on an old rebel and a nifty 50 to produce results i only dream of - its rarely the body that makes the most difference.

    lawbert
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    11 Feb 2012 - 10:58 PM
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    Quote: This thread was intended to shed light on the difficulties of running a business and when to invest in new equipment and to ask others their opinions, do you have something to add to the thread?

    Yup...I do have something to add.

    If any equipment of any make is working for your business then whats the need to upgrade it?...

    Unless your your gonna be a step ahead of the game and take full advantage of the video options that would be available on newer bodies and lenses?

    Its an ever changing market place and those that believe that thier business is above competition from people that understand how thier camera, lens, and flashes work and have the capability to take a day or 2 off work if needed midweek and be available full time at weekends then you are seriously going to hit competition!

    I have had so many asks to take on weddings which I have declined believing there are some superior skills and equipment involved that after shooting my own wedding and 2 for friends I would not hesitate to take up further options.

    Like I said....Its an open market place full of very qualified people with a portfolio to boot

    No one can rest on thier laurelsWink

    Lawbert, you're quite right. And I see, daily, low light shots, near darkness really, taken on cameras newer than my own. And I am jealous! And yes, I do like to be a step ahead of the game. It's necessary, it's imperative; it's an undeniable fact that the very second I go on holiday I'll return to two dozen new businesses all rushing up the Google ranks. Part of their success (and mine) is the ability to shoot in low light without bathing huge venues in flashlight, thereby killing the ambient light - new cameras are better at this!

    That said, I'm not scared of
    Quote: the part timers

    because I have full faith in my abilities.

    You shot your own wedding? How did that go? I wanted to do the same, but my beautiful bride put her size five down and I was left in no doubt that the wedding might not happen if I didn't hire a decent tog. So I hired James Burns of this very parish, and a cracking job he did too, despite being full of the flu.

    Add to this that a half decent wedding photgrapher will have a car-boot full of back-up kit, a plan for when everything goes tits up , hopefully a good few years of experience, a good network of other togs who will stand in if you get hit by a bus the day before the wedding, insurance, in fact feck it, here's the article:

    here

    pulsar69
    12 Feb 2012 - 12:40 PM
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    Thanks for all the comments and points are being taken on board ! I wont be resting on my laurels and always happy to take advice and criticism and attempt to turn it into something positive !

    I am interested at the moment in also furthering the fun element of my photography and although I love the wedding photography I also sometimes hanker after the good old days of just walking out with a small camera somewhere and taking pics purely for the sake of it ( I am sure i wont be alone in this one ) i have a cupboard full of old 35mms but nothing digital to do the trick ..

    This has got me to thinking that maybe its not a new body im looking for its a new camera too which can act as an emergency back up to our other cameras and also have its place in my daily life outside of wedding photography , hence I am really interested in the new Canon G1X it seems on paper to be a 7D but much more compact and do it all ..... but looks good enough and solid enough to be a professional too too , any thoughts ?


    Quote: Here we go again, "weekend warrior" as some here refer to people such as myself. Or at will do very soon as currently I'm getting quotes for pro insurance and seeking advice on setting up as a business and paying tax for any money I am to be paid.

    So no we are not all tax dodgers, people who do dodge paying for tax and or insurance are just crooks plain and simple and come in many forms

    I wonder if other part time workers get called tax dodgers by their full time equals.


    Seems there are a lot of full time photographers who can't deal with competition and try and sling mud instead.

    Edit

    This is aimed at scottishphototours comment

    I don't think I ever DID say that all part time workers are tax dodgers, so I'll accept you're apology MrGM................Tongue

    Oh yeah, and despite what jaundiced view of me you might have - good luck with the business - delighted to see you're paying taxes and doing it properly...

    Andy

    MrGoatsmilk
    12 Feb 2012 - 10:50 PM
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    Quote:

    I don't think I ever DID say that all part time workers are tax dodgers, so I'll accept you're apology MrGM................Tongue

    Oh yeah, and despite what jaundiced view of me you might have - good luck with the business - delighted to see you're paying taxes and doing it properly...

    Andy


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    Re weekenders - shoot with what you like...just pay your taxes like everyone else...

    That's how I read it, if you were tongue in cheek then I'm sorry I read you wrong, and thanks for the good luck, I'm in the process of letting friends family and work mates my intentions by spreading the word. Quite excited as I have put it off for far too long now. One of the reasons I have put it off is the comments starting up tend to get hence my reason for getting a bit touchy on this thread I guess.

    Cheers

    Stu

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