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cmawson
cmawson  11271 forum posts United Kingdom
5 Aug 2007 - 12:15 PM

End to civil liberties as we all know it!!!!! How far will the neo-cons go? Check this out:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20070805/pl_nm/congress_spying_dc_9;_ylt=AkJUV9tsU9gV...

(Sorry can't get the link to work)

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cameracat
cameracat  108578 forum posts Norfolk Island61 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 12:29 PM

And why not, They are welcome to spy on my Kittycam, Anytime they like......Smile

Seriously though, If you have nothing to hide, Whats the problem......!

Just Jas
Just Jas  1225752 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 12:39 PM


Quote: Seriously though, If you have nothing to hide, Whats the problem......!

A 1930s German attitude - soon proved wrong Sad

SuziBlue
SuziBlue  1116195 forum posts Scotland10 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 12:40 PM

So, say you're someone who opposes the government's position on something and you're in contact with similar minded people overseas. I wouldn't believe the 'reassurance' that it's only about intercepting terrorist communications ..

'If you're not with us you're against us ..'

BOB S
BOB S  122622 forum posts
5 Aug 2007 - 12:40 PM

link

Try That, four stars should mean links are easy.

BOB

Last Modified By BOB S at 5 Aug 2007 - 12:42 PM
Just Jas
Just Jas  1225752 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 12:54 PM


Quote: and must give the intelligence community the tools they need."

I don't think that we can include Bush in that community, somehow!

SuziBlue
SuziBlue  1116195 forum posts Scotland10 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 12:56 PM


Quote: I don't think that we can include Bush in that community, somehow!

I doubt that they do, either ...

Just Jas
Just Jas  1225752 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 1:00 PM


Quote: I doubt that they do, either ...

Well, I guess that they are not one's to beat about the Bush!
Quote:

spaceman
spaceman  105166 forum posts Wales3 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 1:01 PM


Quote: If you have nothing to hide, Whats the problem

If you have nothing to hide what's the problem with getting a court order before you spy on people?

cmawson
cmawson  11271 forum posts United Kingdom
5 Aug 2007 - 1:03 PM

Seriously though, just watch this is only the tip of the iceberg....check out the Washington Post & the replies on all this.

There is more to come including potential dictortorial powers to the current adminitsration.....after a "major incident" that'll defere the 2008 autumn elections indefinately.

Could Iran be on the cards? Certainly not North Korea too powerful for the US, after all this current US admin are only bullies after all!!!!!

cmawson
cmawson  11271 forum posts United Kingdom
5 Aug 2007 - 1:06 PM

Lets's just say remember what happened in Germany during the 1920's & 1930's. Or Stalin's era.

Just Jas
Just Jas  1225752 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 1:20 PM


Quote: Lets's just say remember what happened in Germany during the 1920's & 1930's.

I thought that I already had, Chris! Smile

jas

cmawson
cmawson  11271 forum posts United Kingdom
5 Aug 2007 - 1:26 PM

I know Jas, but just reiterating on the facts....

Last Modified By cmawson at 5 Aug 2007 - 1:27 PM
SuziBlue
SuziBlue  1116195 forum posts Scotland10 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 1:31 PM

I agree Chris - it will be some manufactured or 'convenient' need for aggression towards another country in the near future ..

Just Jas
Just Jas  1225752 forum posts England1 Constructive Critique Points
5 Aug 2007 - 1:38 PM

A flash back passed through my mind, of myself as a boy, watching the doodlebugs fly over, falling and demolishing parts of my neighbourhood.

Pondering on the phrase "you have nothing to fear".

jas

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