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Carabosse Plus
12 39.7k 269 England
6 Aug 2007 2:23PM

Quote:You can never trust ANY government completely.


And you certainly can't trust those who govern the government (mostly unelected but very powerful and wealthy).

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Graywolf 8 1.0k United Kingdom
6 Aug 2007 3:59PM

Quote:I believe that apathy is a serious problem in this country.


A few years ago I had a holiday in Greece. It was just before their general election. I have never seen such a fever of excitement. You would see convoys of literally tens of coaches going to rallies. with flags waving, banners, people singing and shouting. This was in about 1989. i was absolutely gobsmacked, until I remembered that it was not that long since Greece had been a military dictatorship.

We are so fortunate in this country that we have become complacent, and that complacency is liable to be our own undoing. How many times did you hear people say during the Balkan disruption a few years ago,
"Oh yes, but it could never happen here"

well may be not exactly that but it does not pay to be complacent about politics.

I'm sure some historians will correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Hitler voted in democratically?

Be afraid...be very afraid.
gcarth Plus
11 2.3k 1 United Kingdom
6 Aug 2007 4:42PM

Quote:I'm sure some historians will correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Hitler voted in democratically?


Yes, albeit with the help of a bit of propaganda - we call it spin nowadays.
SuziBlue 12 16.2k 10 Scotland
6 Aug 2007 4:49PM

Quote:i was absolutely gobsmacked, until I remembered that it was not that long since Greece had been a military dictatorship.


And remember those snaking lines of people waiting to vote at the end of apartheid in 1994 .. people travelled for hundreds of miles to stand in line.

When politics and politicians make people matter, people pay attention. Once they become disillusioned and separated from what should be an accountable democratic leadership, people begin not to bother. And that's what an unaccountable, dishonest government wants of course ...
tepot 10 4.4k United Kingdom
6 Aug 2007 5:30PM

Quote:I'm sure some historians will correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't Hitler voted in democratically?


bush wasn't in 2000 and the same type of situation is occuring so does it really matter?

remember that song 'everybody wants to rule the world'?
Initially, yes. But he later seized autocratic powers.

Another song is: "I don't want to light a flame in your heart, I just want to set the world on fire". (Parody of a Vera Lynne song popular during the war WII) Smile

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